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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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April 19 | 1 | |
May 2 | 2 | 1 |
May 10 | 1 | |
May 12 | 3 | 1 |
May 14 | 2 | |
May 16 | 2 | |
May 17 | 4 | |
May 20 | 5 | 2 |
May 21 | 3 | |
May 22 | 4 | 1 |
May 24 | 4 | 2 |
May 25 | 2 | |
May 26 | 3 | |
May 27 | 2 | |
May 28 | 1 | |
May 29 | 2 | |
May 30 | 3 | 1 |
May 31 | 1 | 1 |
June 1 | 2 | 2 |
June 2 | 5 | 1 |
June 3 | 3 | 1 |
June 4 | 1 | |
June 5 | 6 | 4 |
June 6 | 3 | 2 |
June 7 | 4 | 2 |
June 8 | 7 | 3 |
June 9 | 12 | 6 |
June 10 | 4 | 2 |
June 11 | 5 | 2 |
June 12 | 7 | 2 |
June 13 | 15 | 8 |
June 14 | 7 | 2 |
June 15 | 6 | 4 |
June 16 | 8 | 4 |
June 17 | 9 | 4 |
June 18 | 8 | 2 |
June 19 | 4 | 2 |
June 20 | 5 | 2 |
June 21 | 9 | 3 |
June 22 | 10 | 2 |
June 23 | 12 | 3 |
June 24 | 9 | 1 |
June 25 | 13 | 3 |
June 26 | 8 | 2 |
June 27 | 6 | |
June 28 | 6 | |
June 29 | ||
Total | 239 | 78 |
Last updated 00:39, 29 June 2024 UTC Current time is 01:33, 29 June 2024 UTC [refresh] |
Instructions for nominators[edit]
If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the supplementary guidelines.
Frequently asked questions[edit]
How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).
Where is my hook?
If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.
Instructions for reviewers[edit]
Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:
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If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.
Advanced procedures[edit]
How to promote an accepted hook[edit]
At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
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How to remove a rejected hook[edit]
- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
- In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line
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. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]
- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]
- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations[edit]
Older nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on April 19[edit]
Georgi Romanov
- ... that Georgi Romanov had a shootout loss in the 2022–23 KHL season even though he was credited with playing zero minutes that season?
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC).
- @Blaylockjam10: I studied the source and cannot find the hook. Can you lead me to it? Bruxton (talk) 02:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: It’s under “Regular Season (Complete Stats)”. It looks like it may only be visible on a computer. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like I need a premium membership to view. I will leave this to another reviewer. Bruxton (talk) 04:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- If "S TEAM LEAGUE GP GD GAA SV% GA SV SO W-L-T TOI" and "2022-23 Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg KHL 1 4 - - - - 0 0-0-1 0:00" means what I think it means, then a) you don't need a premium membership to view and b) I think the hook checks out with the source, depending on what "W-L-T" means, although I haven't yet looked at the article. I'm a bit worried about the phrases "submit stats/facts" and "edit profile" I found on the source - what makes it reliable?--Launchballer 11:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer I saw the same, which made me feel like it was a contributor site. Honestly I was just lost on that page. I think W is win L is loss and T is tie. It is a clever hook which drew me to the nomination, but then I found myself lost for a half hour clicking on pull down menus until I got to a paywall. @BeanieFan11: may be able to help. Bruxton (talk) 14:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing the TOI part of the Elite Prospects link but based on how he played in the game that would make sense. NHL says that he was the goaltender for only the shootout portion in his only game, which would mean that he "officially" had zero minutes since the shootout isn't timed. (Also, I've come across Elite Prospects a number of times – they seem pretty reliable (don't think I've seen an incorrect stat, although I've only used them in writing ~10 hockey articles) and seem to have a staff – also cited ~20,000 times). I'd say it's good for approving as long as the article itself is fine. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:08, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer I saw the same, which made me feel like it was a contributor site. Honestly I was just lost on that page. I think W is win L is loss and T is tie. It is a clever hook which drew me to the nomination, but then I found myself lost for a half hour clicking on pull down menus until I got to a paywall. @BeanieFan11: may be able to help. Bruxton (talk) 14:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- If "S TEAM LEAGUE GP GD GAA SV% GA SV SO W-L-T TOI" and "2022-23 Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg KHL 1 4 - - - - 0 0-0-1 0:00" means what I think it means, then a) you don't need a premium membership to view and b) I think the hook checks out with the source, depending on what "W-L-T" means, although I haven't yet looked at the article. I'm a bit worried about the phrases "submit stats/facts" and "edit profile" I found on the source - what makes it reliable?--Launchballer 11:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like I need a premium membership to view. I will leave this to another reviewer. Bruxton (talk) 04:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: It’s under “Regular Season (Complete Stats)”. It looks like it may only be visible on a computer. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Blaylockjam10 I located the minutes played after being guided. Earwig determined that there is some minor WP:CLOP which needs to be addressed. Also probably not a DYK issue, but consider that we probably do not need a section for three words - it should be combined somewhere. Also the lead should introduce/summarize more of the article; right now it is a single sentence. The hook is interesting and the article is neutral with the correct inline citations. Created on April 19 nominated April 26 so the article is new enough and with 2344 the article is long enough. Bruxton (talk) 18:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Blaylockjam10: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton and Z1720: What do you think of the article’s quality now? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. Earwig is at 16.7% - clop was addressed. Personal life was expanded a bit more and the lead is now two sentences. Two sentences are close to a source, but I think we have addressed enough for a pass. Might make a good This might make a good quirky hook.(?) Bruxton (talk) 18:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Blaylockjam10 and Bruxton: As written this article would deserve {{prose}} and {{subsections}}, and single-sentence WP:PARAGRAPHs should be avoided - could this be remedied?--Launchballer 14:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Its not written in list format? I also don't see the need of having a bunch of subsections in this brief article and how one would appropriately do it? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- It reads like one, see WP:PROSELINE.--Launchballer 15:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and BeanieFan11: I agree that the article could be improved by combining sentences and I usually push for MOS changes, but many are not required by WP:DYKCRIT. Regarding sections, we sometimes feature single paragraph articles at DYK. I will go through it and also ping AirshipJungleman29 to see if they have an opinion. Bruxton (talk) 20:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Articles should be free from dispute tags. If an article deserves one, it can't run per WP:DYKTAG.--Launchballer 20:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- None of {{prose}}, {{subsections}} or {{too many sections}} are listed at Wikipedia:Template index/Disputes; I think Bruxton's alterations are sufficient. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- My concern has been resolved.--Launchballer 20:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- None of {{prose}}, {{subsections}} or {{too many sections}} are listed at Wikipedia:Template index/Disputes; I think Bruxton's alterations are sufficient. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Articles should be free from dispute tags. If an article deserves one, it can't run per WP:DYKTAG.--Launchballer 20:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and BeanieFan11: I agree that the article could be improved by combining sentences and I usually push for MOS changes, but many are not required by WP:DYKCRIT. Regarding sections, we sometimes feature single paragraph articles at DYK. I will go through it and also ping AirshipJungleman29 to see if they have an opinion. Bruxton (talk) 20:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- It reads like one, see WP:PROSELINE.--Launchballer 15:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Its not written in list format? I also don't see the need of having a bunch of subsections in this brief article and how one would appropriately do it? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Blaylockjam10 and Bruxton: As written this article would deserve {{prose}} and {{subsections}}, and single-sentence WP:PARAGRAPHs should be avoided - could this be remedied?--Launchballer 14:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
@Blaylockjam10, Bruxton, and AirshipJungleman29: I'm not quite happy with the sourcing on the hook and article here. A fair amount of this article is sourced to this non-independent source and this stat block, both of which feel very less-than-DUE. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think his statistics and how he performed with his different teams is absolutely worth being mentioned in the article – whether or not its sourced to NHL.com. If we remove everything sourced to those we'd end up with only random portions of text without an accurate summary of his career – which I don't think would make sense. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you're right that the secondary independent sources don't come near giving a cohesive picture of the subject, I would honestly question how they could confer notability. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- From a source analysis, sources 1 and 7 are non-independent, while sources 2–6 and 8 (5 is borderline) don't provide significant coverage. I've notability-tagged the article. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a question of notability – he's an NHL goaltender and there's a decent amount of coverage, e.g. this – what I am saying is that by using solely news sources we wouldn't get nearly as good a picture of his career as we would by also using sources such as NHL.com, which help paint the fuller picture. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I think that we can't reasonably call this article a pass unless we use as many of the SIRS as are helpful and then use the non-independent sources to fill in the gaps where we have to. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly do you mean by SIRS? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- secondary, independent, reliable sources :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly do you mean by SIRS? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I think that we can't reasonably call this article a pass unless we use as many of the SIRS as are helpful and then use the non-independent sources to fill in the gaps where we have to. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a question of notability – he's an NHL goaltender and there's a decent amount of coverage, e.g. this – what I am saying is that by using solely news sources we wouldn't get nearly as good a picture of his career as we would by also using sources such as NHL.com, which help paint the fuller picture. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
There is a problem with this - that many readers (myself included) will not have a clue as to what a 'shootout loss' is. Is there at least somewhere on WP which can prode a useful link for this? I couldn't find one. Surely a DYK should be at least widely comprehensible as it stands.Smerus (talk) 13:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Smerus: Glossary of hockey terms#shootout? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Thanks, that's a start, but what then is a 'shootout loss'?Smerus (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Losing the shootout? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Thanks, that's a start, but what then is a 'shootout loss'?Smerus (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
without action for a few weeks, I think it's time to mark this one for closure. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:15, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Could you wait a little longer? I want to take a closer look at this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- sure, how's 'til the end of the month? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 12:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: How much would you like the article to stay away from stats / NHL sources? Currently used 11 times – what should I aim for? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: I'd stay away as much as possible, and use it only to fill in necessary details. I wouldn't use non-independent sources at all, since they don't fall under ABOUTSELF. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: How much would you like the article to stay away from stats / NHL sources? Currently used 11 times – what should I aim for? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- sure, how's 'til the end of the month? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 12:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 2[edit]
Bar Kokhba refuge caves
- ... that towards the end of the Bar Kokhba revolt, Jewish families escaping the Roman army sought shelter in refuge caves in the Judaean Desert?
- Source: Eshel, Hanan; Zissu, Boaz (2019). "The Refuge Caves". The Bar Kokhba Revolt: The Archaeological Evidence. Jerusalem: Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi. pp. 62–64. ISBN 978-965-217-429-1
- ALT1: ... that over 30 refuge caves, where Jewish families sought shelter from the Roman army during the Bar Kokhba revolt, were discovered in the Judaean Desert? Source: Eshel, Hanan; Zissu, Boaz (2019). "The Refuge Caves". The Bar Kokhba Revolt: The Archaeological Evidence. Jerusalem: Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi. pp. 62–64. ISBN 978-965-217-429-1
- Reviewed:
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Mariamnei (talk) 08:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC).
- Mariamnei you have five nominations so you will need to provide a WP:QPQ. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, I have done it, thanks. Mariamnei (talk) 11:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Please put a link to the DYK template that you reviewed for your QPQ next to the "Reviewed" line above, or link to it below. Thanks. Z1720 (talk) 23:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720:, here it is: [1] Mariamnei (talk) 18:37, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article linked above is Template:Did you know nominations/Deir ed Darb. Z1720 (talk) 20:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720:, here it is: [1] Mariamnei (talk) 18:37, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Long enough, new enough. Both hooks check out; my preference is ALT0. Not seeing any copyright concerns. There is, I'm afraid, much to whinge about with this. Several sections comprise of single sentences and these should be expanded. Several sentences also deserve {{cn}} tags and these really need to be cited - and if you're asserting that the expounded-upon caves are Examples, then you'd better have a good reason why this meets WP:DYKCOMPLETE. A copyedit wouldn't go amiss either.--Launchballer 12:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: this has been open for almost two months now and still has some issues, such as unresolved citation needed tags. If this can't be wrapped up quickly, I'm afraid it'll have to be rejected. RoySmith (talk) 15:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 10[edit]
Party of Revolutionary Communism, Vladimir Zitta, Grigorii Nikolaevich Maksimov, Evgenia Semenovskaya, Vladimir Bezel
- ... that in 1919 Vladimir Zitta, Evgenia Semenovskaya and G. N. Maksimov were expelled from the Party of Revolutionary Communism for having advocated unity with other populist sectors?
- Source: Память, Issue 3. Khronika Press, 1980. p. 384
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Theo Benedet, Template:Did you know nominations/Herschel the sea lion, Template:Did you know nominations/Kenji Tanigaki (2 articles), Template:Did you know nominations/Vasantha Krishna Prasad
Soman (talk) 21:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment ok to add Vladimir Bezel as a fifth article for this nom? (moved to mainspace today). The ALT1 hook would be "... that in 1919 Vladimir Zitta, Evgenia Semenovskaya, Vladimir Bezel and G. N. Maksimov were expelled from the Party of Revolutionary Communism for having advocated unity with other populist sectors?" One more QPQ would be needed. --Soman (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- I added in Vladimir Bezel into the template and added a 5th article QPQ. --Soman (talk) 14:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed of all five articles and the hook. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 12[edit]
Ceasefire proposal for Israel–Hamas war (May 5)
- ... that celebrations happened in the Gaza Strip after Hamas accepted an Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal?
- ALT1: ... that Hamas accepted an Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal under which it would agree not to rebuild its military arsenal? Source: [4]
- ALT2: ... that CIA Director William J. Burns played a key role in drafting an Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal that Hamas accepted? Source: [5] [6]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Julius Welschof
VR (Please ping on reply) 03:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC).
- The notability of the article is questionable. If the proposal is not implemented and is replaced by another proposal (which seems to be the case at the moment) do you think anyone will be remotely interested in this article a year from now? Vegan416 (talk) 14:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I do think it’s a significant proposal that will continue to be mentioned years from now. For example, consider the Palestinian proposal at Camp David, which was eventually replaced by an Israeli proposal. Initial media coverage was mainly focused on the Israeli proposal, but as the years passed by academic literature began to pick up on the Palestinian proposal and we can see evidence of WP:SIGCOV in 2003, 2006, 2007, 2012, 2017 etc.VR (Please ping on reply) 04:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Issue with all 3 hooks: lack sufficient clarity that Israel did not agree (both before and after). Do you have an alternative suggestion? FortunateSons (talk) 06:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
FortunateSons here is another suggestion:
- ALT3: ... on May 31, Joe Biden presented a three-phase ceasefire proposal that was welcomed by Hamas but opposed by some members of the Israeli cabinet? Source: [7][8]
VR (Please ping on reply) 16:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Vice regent This is definitely better, but I would like an uninvolved person to evaluate it. Thank you :) FortunateSons (talk) 16:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Issue with hook 2 (and maybe hook 3 as well): The claim may be factually incorrect or misleading. Another reliable source claims that Hamas is not ready to give up its weapons: ""Hamas will not surrender its guns or sign a proposal that asks for that,” Arab mediators said Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar told them in a brief message they received Thursday, as two top U.S. officials, including Central Intelligence Agency Director William Burns, hold talks in the region aimed at jump-starting long-stalled negotiations." Vegan416 (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- But the proposal is not asking for Hamas to give up its guns? In any case, joining two reliably sourced statements to come to a conclusion is WP:SYNTH. Do you have any reliable sources that directly state that Hamas has rejected this proposal? VR (Please ping on reply) 04:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4: ...that a ceasefire proposal to the Israel-Hamas war presented by Joe Biden on May 31 was nearly identical to the one presented by Egypt and Qatar on May 5?Source: [9]
Alt4 should be interesting and uncontroversial.VR (Please ping on reply) 05:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: Article attributes, hook doesn't. This should be changed.--Launchballer 12:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT5: a ceasefire proposal to the Israel-Hamas war presented by Egypt and Qatar on May 5 would consist of three stages? Source: [10]
- @Launchballer: this hook should be pretty uncontroversial and should not need any attribution.VR (Please ping on reply) 13:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is in the first bit of 'Proposals' and is a summary of that section's three subsections. Fine by me, an actual reviewer can adjudicate. Full review needed.--Launchballer 14:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Grace A. Johnson
- ... that Grace A. Johnson's traditional view that women belonged at home changed after attending a pro-suffrage meeting in Cambridge, England, in 1907? Source: Berenson, Barbara F. (August 27, 2020). "Johnson, Grace Allen". American National Biography. New York: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/anb/9780198606697.013.369350. (subscription required) (can be freely accessed via Wikipedia Library), Biographical Sketch of Grace A. Johnson
- ALT0a: ... that Grace A. Johnson initially held the traditional view that women belonged at home, but her perspective shifted after attending a pro-suffrage meeting in Cambridge, England in 1907? Source: Same as above
- ALT0b: ... that Grace A. Johnson initially held the traditional view that women belonged at home, but her perspective shifted after attending a pro-suffrage meeting in England in 1907? Source: same as above
- ALT1: ... that Grace A. Johnson initially opposed American entry into World War I, but eventually supported the war effort after the United States declared war in 1917? Source: [1]
- ALT1a: ... that after initially opposing the United States' entry into World War I, Grace A. Johnson eventually came to support the war effort when the US declared the war in 1917? Source: same as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WJHP-TV
X (talk) 22:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment:
QPQ will be done promptlyDone.X (talk) 22:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
References
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems: - Article has... eight sections in the running text alone. It should be consolidated.
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral: - n
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - n
- Interesting:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Issue with sections is holding this up. Also, "traditional" is not supported by the source. Culture of Domesticity and separate spheres go into further detail, but in brief the "traditionality" of domesticity is not clear-cut, as it has varied between cultures and time periods; as such, it may be a weasel word in this instance. Third, it may be worth mentioning that she became a suffragist, rather than just that she changed her mind (for example, ... that the suffragist Grace A. Johnson initially believed that women belong at home?) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 14[edit]
Maud Morgan (harpist)
- ... that Maud Morgan (pictured) was the first ever American to perform as a solo harpist on the American concert stage? Source: NYtimes (freely available via Proquest with Wikipedia Library, The Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Time magazine
- ALT0a: ... that Maud Morgan (pictured) is considered the first American to perform as a solo harpist on the American concert stage? Source: Same as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Axel Downard-Wilke
X (talk) 21:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC).
- I'm afraid that that QPQ does not count, as a previous full review had already been conducted.--Launchballer 21:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Oh, okay. I'll review another in a few days. @Launchballer:, I hope this one counts? X (talk) 21:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)- Full review needed.--Launchballer 09:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Other problems: - The hook only appears in the lead and not in the body of the article - I think this needs to be changed, per WP:LEDE
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Overall: A really interesting person to read about! I think we would need to use ALT 0a, which better reflects the claims of the sources. The only query is on the hook not appearing in the body of the article. If you can add it somewhere appropriate, this is good to go. Mystery Merrivale (talk) 10:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mystery Merrivale: Done. Yes, let's go with ALT0a. X (talk) 11:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @X: That's great, ready to go with ALT0a. Mystery Merrivale (talk) 14:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Considered to be the first, sounds unsure but does reflect the uncertainty in the Time magazine source. Is there a possible hook that doesn't include "first"?
- @X: That's great, ready to go with ALT0a. Mystery Merrivale (talk) 14:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mystery Merrivale and Xoak: In light of recent brouhahas above "first" hooks, and especially considering the uncertainty of the source, I don't intend to promote either of the hooks, and as this has remained unpromoted for a month I suspect other promoters share my opinion. I would suggest devising a completely new hook. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29, Mystery Merrivale, and Xoak: Trying out some suggestions:
- ALT1 ... that during a celebration of her 50 years as a harpist, Maud Morgan (pictured) was crowned with silver hair and seated on a golden harp?
- ALT2 ... that a bust of harpist Maud Morgan (pictured) is one of Olin Levi Warner's most celebrated works?
- ALT2 of course would require the bust's picture to work, but that shouldn't be an issue since the image is licensed under CC0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Fresh review needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 AGF fine, although for ALT2 I'm not seeing the phrase 'most celebrated' in the source or how it meets WP:DYKINT. I'd also quibble about the presence of refs in the lede, never mind the {{clump}}. My suggestion would be along the lines of 'that the leading American harpist Maud Morgan had to adapt piano lessons due to a lack of teachers'. I'm more bothered by the fact that Xoak seems to have stopped editing.--Launchballer 11:15, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Fresh review needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Saleh Manaf
- ... that during the protests against Bekasi regent Saleh Manaf, protesters sealed his office and put two goat heads in front of the door? Source: https://www.liputan6.com/news/read/107867/pintu-ruangan-bupati-bekasi-disegel-kepala-kambing
- Reviewed:
- Comment: DYKcheck: "Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 11 edits ago on May 10, 2024"
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: The Bekasi link in the hook is linked to Bekasi city instead of Bekasi Regency. I fixed it Nyanardsan (talk) 07:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Please complete a QPQ and link to it above Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Has not supplied a QPQ, so I am marking this for closure as rejected. Z1720 (talk) 00:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I've done a QPQ here! Please retract the closure. Real life got in my way. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael
New reviewer required. Z1720 (talk) 17:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: As noted above, the lede should be beefed up before this hits the main page. Also, given the recent RFC, I'm not sure focusing on the negative aspects of this BLP (i.e., the goat head protest), is going to fly on the main page. It's a very interesting fact, and supported by Liputan6, but something else may work better in the current climate. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: I've expanded the lede of the article, but I might need some help finding interesting part of the article other than the BLPed hook. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe something like "that Saleh Manaf became Regent of Bekasi even after his party attempted to annul the results?". If we have an ALT, we can allow the admin making the queues to make the decision. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: ALT1: "... that Saleh Manaf was elected as the Regent of Bekasi despite being a dummy candidate in the election?" Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. That should give the promoting administrator a choice and hopefully avoid any fuss at the main page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: "... that Saleh Manaf was elected as the Regent of Bekasi despite being an underdog in the election?". Tagging SL93. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Unpromoted per WT:DYK. New review needed for ALT2. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Where is it in the article?--Launchballer 17:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: It was not mentioned explicitly previously, but there was a discussion regarding this in here. I've copyedited the article to make the fact in the hook more explicit. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is not what an underdog is (someone expected to lose), and in either case you'd need an end-of-sentence citation for it.--Launchballer 18:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Alright then, change of hook. ALT4: "... that the regent of Bekasi, Saleh Manaf, was protested by his own local environment service?" quote from: this one, ref no. 14
Beberapa waktu yang lalu, Dinas Kebersihan Kabupaten Bekasi sebenarnya sudah mengirimkan surat protes kepada Bupati Bekasi, meminta pertanggung-jawaban bupati terhadap dampak lingkungan dan akibat sampah yang dibuang truk pengangkut sampah.
(Some time ago, the Bekasi Regency Environment Service actually sent a letter of protest to the Regent of Bekasi, asking the regent to be responsible for the environmental impact and consequences of the waste thrown by the waste trucks.)
- @Launchballer: Alright then, change of hook. ALT4: "... that the regent of Bekasi, Saleh Manaf, was protested by his own local environment service?" quote from: this one, ref no. 14
- That is not what an underdog is (someone expected to lose), and in either case you'd need an end-of-sentence citation for it.--Launchballer 18:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: It was not mentioned explicitly previously, but there was a discussion regarding this in here. I've copyedited the article to make the fact in the hook more explicit. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 16[edit]
Taste of Summer
- ... that there is a seasonal festival in Tasmania that has received yachties from all around the world for the New Year's celebrations for more than 30 years?
- Source: Hall, C. Michael (2008-09-10). Food and Wine Festivals and Events Around the World (1 ed.). Routledge. pp. 113–130. doi:10.4324/9780080887951. ISBN 978-0-08-088795-1.
- Reviewed:
Lautreca11 (talk) 10:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comments by Tbhotch
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Overall: @Lautreca11: I copy-edited the article. As a tip, refer to WP:SEAOFBLUE, we don't normally link common words or countries. A newly expanded article that is long enough. The article uses sources sources I cannot access, so I am going to assume good faith. The ones available are okay and mention what it is sourced. The picture is clear and free. No QPQ required; this is the first nomination. I am not approving it due to three queries. 1st: sourcing; I added a citation needed tag, that's the only issue. 2nd: neutrality, several sentences are written as promotion sentences written in a WP:Wikivoice tone: For example: "By having a strong main theme and a high profile, the festival is popular and relevant to locals who support this event with their community energy" or "The Taste of Summer highlights the region local produce". It is not the same as saying this: "According to The Writer / The Source, [text]", "The Writer / The Source considers that [text]". I recommend you to re-read the article as if you were the reader rather than the writer and identify these sentences and quotes and attribute them to the source." 3rd: the hook. It is not directly mentioned in the article, even though it is implied, it is part of the rules: "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." (CC) Tbhotch™ 19:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sources fixed. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Lautreca11: any update on the third point? (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Tbhotch, thanks for your message. My final submition was on the 24th so I am not sure if I can do anything else while I receive my mark. Anyway, do I have to submit a new DYK or is it possible to edit the initial one?
* Working (CC) Tbhotch™ 22:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)- @Lautreca11: Sorry for the late response, this page got lost on my watchlist. As a tip, you can see the template {{ping}} and the editor so they can be notified. Back to the review, I re-reviewed the article, but point three above is still missing. The hook reads: Did you know that there is a seasonal festival in Tasmania that has received yachties from all around the world for the New Year's celebrations for more than 30 years? The article doesn't establish this automatically, you can assume it if you read the whole page. For example.
- "Did you know that there is a seasonal festival in Tasmania" → The Taste of Summer Festival, previously known as the Taste of Tasmania, is an annual event held in Hobart, Tasmania
- "that has received yachties" → One of its main goals was to entertain the competitors of the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race
- "from all around the world" → drawing in both locals and tourists from around the globe.
- "for the New Year's celebrations" → Hobart's waterfront is the place where New Year's Eve festivities are celebrated, including the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race
- "for more than 30 years" → Its origins back to 1988 when the Hobart City Council introduced it as part of the Hobart Summer Festival
- As we can read, this is implied, but the DYK rules require the hook to be present in the article and backed up by a source. We have multiple implications that do not necessarily back up the original hook. The all around the world statement is not mentioned anywhere (the word "world" is mentioned twice, but not in this specific context), and "for more than 30 years" is vague because the article doesn't establish that the Taste of Tasmania was the event "the Hobart City Council introduced it as part of the Hobart Summer Festival"; the infobox says that the Taste of Tasmania/Summer has been active from 2003 to 2024. You need to back up the hook in the article with a respective source. Otherwise, you need an alternate hook. You can leave alternatives below with a bolded ALT1, ALT2, etc. (CC) Tbhotch™ 22:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
@Lautreca11: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Baubau
- ... that Baubau city filed two different budgets at the same time, resulting it to lose their chance at becoming capital of Southeast Sulawesi? Source: "Beberapa sebab terpilihnya Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara di antaranyakalah jumlah suara pada saat pemilihan untuk penentuan ibukota. Selain itu,terjadi malbirokrasi di mana ada dinas di Kota Baubau yang mengajukan anggaran dua versi dan yang mengajukan dua orang, sehingga terjadi dualisme dalam satu dinas. Akibatnya,kekacauan dalam sistem birokrasi dan tata pemerintahan sangat mungkin terjadi jika Kota Baubau menjadi ibukota provinsi. Oleh karena itu, Mendagri dan Otonomi Daerah dalam keputusannya mengesahkan Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara." Rabani, L. O., Purwanto, B., & Margana, S. (2020). Politik dan Ekonomi di Dua Kota: Baubau dan Kendari pada tahun 1950an–1960an. MOZAIK HUMANIORA, 20(1), 39–56. https://doi.org/10.20473/mozaik.v20i1.15746
- ALT1: ... that Baubau city has a fortress made out of coral reefs and limestones? Source: "Benteng Wolio dibangun dengan bahan baku berupa batu karang, pasir, dan kapur. Dalam sistem pengetahuan setempat, bahan perekat material benteng menggunakan putih telur ayam." https://books.google.co.id/books?id=HRHszgEACAAJ&newbks=0&hl=id&redir_esc=y (Page 49)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Minnesota State Highway 36
- Comment: Newly expanded 5 times, CE will be very appreciated thank you. Also special request to be posted on 29th July.
Nyanardsan (talk) 01:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but special occasion requests for more than six weeks require consensus at WT:DYK. I'd also expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT0 at 'time'.--Launchballer 18:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Nyanardsan: Please complete a QPQ, and link it above. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ added. I also would like to highlight my request once again. I am fine if it must go through consensus at WT:DYK and any modification/ALTs are also fine as long as it mentions the city's name. Nyanardsan (talk) 03:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a review but I would oppose the special occasion request. For one thing, the significance of the date is not even stated in the nomination, plus there is no mention of the date in the article. Thus it is not even clear what the significance of July 29 to the subject is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 17[edit]
South by South Lawn
- ... that the South by South Lawn festival, which took place October 3, 2016, was modelled after and "organized together with" the South by Southwest festival?
- Source: "It was the first – and you have to presume the last – South By South Lawn. Modeled upon and organized together with the original Austin, Texas, interactive festival South By Southwest, it brought a riot of color to the usually sedate seat of the US presidency." The Guardian
- ALT1: ... that the South by South Lawn festival sign was programmed by Adam Savage and a team from Baltimore to illuminate every time someone made a social media post with the hashtag #sxsl? Source: "MythBusters’ Adam Savage and a team of makers from Baltimore made the giant letters “SXSL” that lit up every time someone posted to social media using the hasthag #sxsl. Artist Nathan Sawaya brought his Park People, sculptures of people made entirely of Legos." Smithsonian Magazine
ALT2: ... that the 2016 festival South by South Lawn was literally one of a kind? Source: One-off event. The Guardian- ALT3: ... that the 2016 festival South by South Lawn included a panel discussion on climate change led by President Obama and featuring actor Leonardo DiCaprio and Canadian climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe? Source: "The main event was a conversation, led by President Obama, on climate change with Leonardo DiCaprio and climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe. When talking about leaders taking on climate change, DiCaprio said, “I'm so very honored and pleased to be joined onstage with one of those leaders—a President who has done more to create solutions for the climate change crisis than any other in history—President Barack Obama.” Immediately following the discussion was the domestic premiere of DiCaprio’s new climate documentary, Before the Flood." Smithsonian Magazine
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wan Abubakar
TheSandDoctor Talk 00:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC).
- Hiya. The article was new enough at time of nomination (DYK nomination on 24 May, having been moved to the mainspace on the same day, and has not appeared on the Main Page) and is long enough (1737 characters of readable prose and is not a stub). ALTs 0, 1, and 3 are interesting, sourced, and formatted properly, though I would have reduced some of the detail (such as the dates) to increase intrigue. It is up to you if you want to retain the current level of detail (the character lengths are currently 154, 180, and 198 respectively, which are within policy but are pushing its boundaries). I am not approving ALT2: "one of a kind" is too broad and implies that there is something unique about the event, not that it occurred as a one-off.As the listed quid pro quo was used in a previous nomination, I believe that a new one is needed – my interpretation of
you must complete a full review of one other nomination (unrelated to you) for every subsequent article you nominate ... A review does not need to be successful to count as a QPQ
is that they cannot be reused even if the nomination is unsuccessful (maybe seek clarification at WT:DYK). Please also note that full reviews are needed to count as QPQs.With regards to core content policies such as copyright, neutrality, and BLP, I did not detect any violations (there is some close paraphrasing, such as the first sentence of the second paragraph of "Background", but there is a limited number of ways to say the same thing). However, there are some verifiability issues with the article:- I think that the basis for
initiated by the Obama administration
in that White House source is a little shaky; while it is probably true, it doesn't seem to be explicitly supported. - Is there a better source than that Forbes profile for Futurism helping to organise?
More than 20,000 attendees were invited
in the article ≠More than 20,000 were nominated
in the source.- General comment about the article (expressly not a DYK issue, more a bugbear): I don't really understand the citation structure – the frequency is very dense when it doesn't need to be (eg
technology and music[1] festival[2]
,one-day event[7] hosted on the White House South Lawn[8]
, andclimate[12] documentary Before the Flood.[13]
). You're free to ignore this comment if you wish. - Another general comment: if you want, there are some nice public-domain photos here that you can add.
- I think that the basis for
- As DYK eligibility requires additional work, I am marking the nomination with . Please address these issues before I can approve this nomination. Sdrqaz (talk) 04:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sdrqaz: I never got a notification on my talk page from the usual bot about there being a problem here. Weird. The sub-heading of this White House page says that it is "A White House Festival of Ideas, Art, and Action". Does that help any? The Forbes entry is staff written, as are the Forbes 30 Under 30 picks, therefore falling under WP:FORBES rather than WP:FORBESCON. They're not explicitly mentioned in this staff article but if you follow the "media" link for that category of the 2017 30U30 present in the article, the profile is half way down the linked page. I don't think that that source should be a problem there. I have adjusted the 20,000 attendees line. Thanks for the link on public domain pics! I will go through those when I have some more time and add a few. --TheSandDoctor Talk 15:55, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheSandDoctor: I don't think that there is a bot that notifies you if there are issues – it is up to the reviewer to leave such notices if they wish. I'll ping you to comments I make here instead, if that's okay. I did see that for the Obama administration issue; maybe I'm being too picky, so I'll leave it. I'll give you some time to find a full QPQ (see my comments at the start) or find clarification at
WT:QPQWT:DYK if you disagree. Would also like to hear your thoughts on the hooks. Sdrqaz (talk) 22:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)- @Sdrqaz: Swapped out to Template:Did you know nominations/Wan Abubakar. My mistake re the bot -- I thought that there was one but clearly I'm mistaken. Pings are just fine! For ALT0 would
that the South by South Lawn festival was modelled after and "organized together with" the South by Southwest festival?
work? Would you suggest any detail reduction for ALT1? Curious what you had in mind for shortening ALT3; I think it is interesting enough as is but I feel creating a sense of intrigue could be improved, just not sure how. (Silly me thought I'd saved this comment last night but apparently not...) --TheSandDoctor Talk 14:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)- @TheSandDoctor: That is an improved ALT0, in my opinion . Take what I say with a grain of salt as hook-writing is not a precise science, but I would advise thinking about the purpose behind every included detail. As the author, it depends on what you want to highlight about the article. I would caution against writing hooks like sentences in normal articles: too much detail may not leave the reader wanting to know more.Part of the appeal for ALT1 as written is to attract readers who have heard of Adam Savage or MythBusters. However, there's also the risk that people get distracted by the link and click on him instead to find out more. The
team from Baltimore
may be extraneous detail if you take a more ruthless approach. For ALT3, the same consideration applies: if you wish to highlight the climate change element of it or Katherine Hayhoe's work, then inclusion of her article is a respectable decision. However, as above, it may lead to distraction: as DiCaprio and Obama are much more well-known, then it may not be necessary to have detail about her. Other ways to make it shorter could simply be just removing "actor" or "Canadian" etc.I will emphasise that these are just things to think about and you are absolutely free to disregard them as I will be approving the nomination either way. Sdrqaz (talk) 03:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheSandDoctor: That is an improved ALT0, in my opinion . Take what I say with a grain of salt as hook-writing is not a precise science, but I would advise thinking about the purpose behind every included detail. As the author, it depends on what you want to highlight about the article. I would caution against writing hooks like sentences in normal articles: too much detail may not leave the reader wanting to know more.Part of the appeal for ALT1 as written is to attract readers who have heard of Adam Savage or MythBusters. However, there's also the risk that people get distracted by the link and click on him instead to find out more. The
- @Sdrqaz: Swapped out to Template:Did you know nominations/Wan Abubakar. My mistake re the bot -- I thought that there was one but clearly I'm mistaken. Pings are just fine! For ALT0 would
- @TheSandDoctor: I don't think that there is a bot that notifies you if there are issues – it is up to the reviewer to leave such notices if they wish. I'll ping you to comments I make here instead, if that's okay. I did see that for the Obama administration issue; maybe I'm being too picky, so I'll leave it. I'll give you some time to find a full QPQ (see my comments at the start) or find clarification at
Rashmika Mandanna
... that Rashmika Mandanna made her debut in 2016 opposite Rakshit Shetty in the Kannada romance Kirik Party?- Reviewed:
19Arham (talk) 21:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
- A new hook is needed here as the hook may not be interesting or understandable to a broad audience, particularly if the reader is unfamiliar with Shetty. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: Can you suggest some additional hooks below? Z1720 (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Rashmika Mandanna starred in the third highest-grossing Indian film of 2023 opposite Bollywood royalty, Ranbir Kapoor?
- That doesn't seem to be much of an improvement, not to mention referring to Kapoor as "Bollywood royalty" could fall afoul of WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: are there any other aspects of this article that could be a good hook? Proposing multiple hooks is more likely to get approved. @Narutolovehinata5: do you have any suggestions of interesting aspects in which to get a hook from? Z1720 (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on Bollywood so I'm probably not the best person to ask about this; besides, I didn't get much ideas from a quick skim of the article, but it could just be due to unfamiliarity with the subject. Launchballer has experience proposing ALTs for entertainers so maybe they'd have some ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Rashmika Mandanna was reluctant to accept her first Hindi cinema role as she disagreed with her character's views on spirituality? jumps out, although there may be others. Also @19Arham: I strongly recommend submitting an image with this nomination, as all of the images are Creative Commons.--Launchballer 20:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on Bollywood so I'm probably not the best person to ask about this; besides, I didn't get much ideas from a quick skim of the article, but it could just be due to unfamiliarity with the subject. Launchballer has experience proposing ALTs for entertainers so maybe they'd have some ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: are there any other aspects of this article that could be a good hook? Proposing multiple hooks is more likely to get approved. @Narutolovehinata5: do you have any suggestions of interesting aspects in which to get a hook from? Z1720 (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't seem to be much of an improvement, not to mention referring to Kapoor as "Bollywood royalty" could fall afoul of WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 sounds good and can be reviewed, though if anyone has additional hook suggestions that's also appreciated. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Anna Russell Cole
- ... that Anna Russell Cole (pictured), a devout Methodist, was instrumental in supporting Vanderbilt University's independence from the church, donating significantly to its endowment campaign? Source: Turner, William B. (February 2000). "Cole, Anna Virginia Russell". American National Biography. New York: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/anb/9780198606697.article.2001271. (subscription required), Notable American Women, 1607-1950 A Biographical Dictionary · Volume 2, page 358
- ALT0a: ... that Anna Russell Cole (pictured), a devout Methodist, was key in supporting Vanderbilt University's independence from the church's hierarchy, donating to its endowment campaign? Source: Same as above.
- ALT1: ... In 1926, Anna Russell Cole (pictured), a significant benefactor of Vanderbilt University, donated $10,000 to endow the office of dean of women? Source: Same as above.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1974
- Comment:
QPQ will be done promptly.Done.
X (talk) 02:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: @Xoak: The article is new enough, as it was created on May 16 and nominated on May 17. It is long enough. There is a source appended to every paragraph. It is written with a neutral, encyclopedic tone, and the hooks are cited properly and are interesting. (The angle of ALT0 is evidently that Cole being devout, a contemporary reader might expect her to support church control of the university; instead, she considered the university's independence important enough to financially support. The angle of ALT1 is simply that she was a fiscally abundant benefactor.) I am presuming good faith about content cited to Tinling (1986) to which I don't have ready access as well as about content cited to Cole (2007) as I don't have a means of accessing the work's first volume (I checked Open Library but was only able to borrow volume 3 of Dictionary of Women Worldwide: 25,000 Women Through the Ages ). There are, however, seven six matters about which I seek resolution prior to approving the nomination:
First, Cole (2007) is credited to Anna Russell Cole according to your citation. Is the content on page 413 of Dictionary of Women Worldwide a (posthumously published) autobiography by Cole? Or is the name of the author just a particularly unusual coincidence? Or is this a citation reference formatting issue?
Second, Upon returning to Augusta, Cole taught French and German at a local girls' school
may constitute close paraphrasing of On returning to Augusta, Russell taught French and German at a local girls’ school
(Turner 2000). If you consider this information necessary to include, is there a way to rephrase or reorganize so as to not so closely paraphrase?
Third, the article states Edmund Cole had five children from a previous marriage
. However, Radcliffe College (1971) calls him a widower with seven children
at the time of his marriage to Anna Russell Cole, sounding like he had the seven children at the time of the marriage.
Fourth, I can't help but think that the article should explain that"Colemere"
was the name/nickname of Anna Russell Cole's house in Nashville. I also think her death place should just be given as Nashville; infoboxes seem usually just name municipal locations, not the specific buildings of one's death.
Fifth, the sentence Cole supported international peace efforts, attending a conference in Vienna in 1916, writing an editorial for the Nashville Tennessean in support of Woodrow Wilson, and donating $2,000 to the Democratic National Committee in 1920
makes it sound as though the Wilson editorial and DNC donations were a subset of her international peace efforts. However, Turner (2000) frames it almost the other way: her international peace activism was a subset of her support for Woodrow Wilson. I'm also concerned that this may be too close a paraphrase and would be grateful for some alternative presentation of the information.
Sixth, She also had an interest in the arts and was a patron of various cultural institutions.
is cited to Turner (2000) but I can't seem to verify it in that source. I can accept the possibility that my eyes are somehow glazing past it; I just would appreciate the verification being pointed out to me, or a quotation provided.
Seventh, I have questions about the copyright status of the image selected, as it appears to be a portrait painting hung on a wall. As WP:PUBLICDOMAIN explains, [b] [I have struck the seventh matter on discovering I slightly misread c:File:PD-US_table.svg and WP:PUBLICDOMAIN, which states that works by creators who died more than 70 years ago fall into the public domain if they are first published after 2002. As the Tennessee Portrait Project's earliest documentation of portraits was January 2003, this places it after 2002 and therefore means the portrait is in the public domain. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 02:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)]ecause an artwork is not published by being exhibited, and also neither by being created or sold, one needs to know when reproductions of the artwork (photos, postcards, lithographs, casts of statues, and so on) were first published. That constitutes publication of the artwork, and from then on, the work is subject to all the rules for published works
. The upload on Wikimedia Commons was certainly made in good faith, but it doesn't establish when the work was published in a manner that would clarify its copyright status. Although works created by creators who died more than 70 years ago fall into the public domain if they are only first published after 2003, the source for the image, the Tennessee Portrait Project, reports that it was digitally compiling portraits as early as January 2003, meaning it's not for sure whether the work was published during or after 2003. Evidence for the image's public domain status needs to be provided, or it needs to be relicensed as fair non-free use (because Cole is dead and it is not possible to get a better image of her without just copying this portrait which would be worse to do) and excluded from the hook.
While these matters are several, the article's in otherwise good shape. I'll be happy to approve the nomination once these are resolved.
Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 04:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- According to their user page, they are on wikibreak and do not expect to return until late August. If they return soon, I have no objection to somebody reopening this, but for now I'm going to mark it closed. RoySmith (talk) 16:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, that turn of events is too bad. I guess maybe Xoak thought the review would wrap up before their break started but then that didn't happen. I don't suppose there's any way around this? Could some other user take on responsibility for the nomination/making the needed fixes? I mean, I could probably make the fixes, just by rewriting the CLOP parts and cutting the unverified sentence.(Also, you stated that you're marking it as closed, but it seems to not be? In the sense that there's no green box around this; there's just the delete icon you added?) Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 20:36, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Mercantile Library Company (Philadelphia)
- ... that Philadelphia's Mercantile Library moved to three different locations over the course of its 168-year existence?
- ALT1: ... that the Mercantile Library was originally founded as a subscription library to serve merchants in Philadelphia? Source: "It was established in 1821, and it was originally intended to serve primarily merchants and merchants’ clerks. However, its membership eventually expanded beyond the mercantile industry, and it became a popular library among the general public."
- ALT2: ... that after after operating for 168 years and moving to three buildings, the Mercantile Library in Philadelphia was closed due to concerns of asbestos? Source: "The building was closed in 1989 due to concerns over asbestos and has sat vacant for twenty-six years."
- ALT3: ... that the Mercantile Library's Modern building was only added to the Philadelphia Register of Historic Places a year after it was closed and abandoned? Source: "The building maintained a minimalist allure years after its closure in 1989. It was placed under the legal protection of the Philadelphia Register of Historic Places in 1990 ..."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Utter (horse)
AdoTang (talk) 04:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
- @AdoTang: Hi, I'll be reviewing this.
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Overall: Article properly expanded, no copy vio. Sources used appear reliable. I've done some minor copy edits. ALT0 is rather uninteresting and dull, ALT1 in the hook it is mentioned as "subscription library" and this term has been used in the lead as well, but with no citation although the fact is cited later on in the History section. But as DYK hook rules suggest, the terms used in the hook should be cited in the article somewhat as is. Currently, the cited description in the history section does not mention the word subscription, and the sources do not mention it directly, which is fine here as we can calibrate that easily from the stated info. But it'd be better if you made a mention of that word in that section as well. ALT2 is the most interesting of the bunch. However, it needs a bit of rewording. The source cited mention "due to concerns over Asbestos" but the hooks states directly "due to asbestos". This should be reworded. Moving to ALT3, it feels rather mundane. Ping me once you've made the adjustments. Regards. X (talk) 02:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak: I've decided to lean into ALT2 and ALT3. Reworded ALT2 as you suggested, and clarified what I was going for with ALT3 (the interest part was that it was only added after it was closed). Half-considering adding an ALT4 about how the Modern building was the first such building to be added to the Register, but I'm banking mainly on ALT2, which I agree is the most interesting. I was also thinking of adding another hook about how the 1877 fire originated from Fox's American Theatre considering it was in DYK recently, but I can't find a source that clearly states the connection and I doubt it would be particularly interesting to anyone except Philadelphia architectural historians. AdoTang (talk) 16:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Approving with strong preference for ALT2.X (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
@AdoTang and Xoak: I've had to pull this article from queue, since I don't believe that Mural Arts Philadelphia or OCF Realty are reliable sources. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I have added another reference for ALT2 to the article Source: [Philadelphia Daily News Tue, 22 Aug 1989 Page 32 via Newspapers.com "The Mercantile Library - the business oriented branch of the Free Library of Philadelphia - has been forced to close due to an asbestos-related problem."]. TSventon (talk) 20:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak:, I have copied the sentences with disputed sources to the talk page and removed them from the article. Can you recheck and reapprove the nomination? @AdoTang: has not edited for a week, but hopefully will return in due course. TSventon (talk) 11:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed unless Xoak returns. Z1720 (talk) 15:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @AdoTang: The sentence 'In 1952, the Mercantile Library moved to a newer building at 1021–1023 Chestnut Street, part of the site of the former Chestnut Street Opera House.' needs an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 11:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't remember if this was cited before but had its citation removed, but I've added a citation and removed the Opera House mention. AdoTang (talk) 22:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 20[edit]
Jump (Tyla, Gunna, and Skillibeng song)
... that a fusion of international talent "Jump" by South African singer Tyla, American rapper Gunna and Jamaican singer as well as rapper Skillibeng is a collaborative song which blends Tyla's melodious vocals, Gunna's rap prowess, and Skillibeng's dancehall flair, marking a vibrant cross-genre collaboration that's making waves globally? Source: ' ' 'Source:' ' 'For 6 consecutive weeks, the song has maintained the number one position on the UK's biggest premier chart for afrobeats songs, which ranks them according to sales and streams over a 7 day period: [11]American rapper Gunna and South African singer Tyla traveled to Johannesburg, South Africa, Tyla's hometown, to film the official music video: [12]- Reviewed:
- Comment: "Jump" by Tyla, Gunna and Skillibeng achieved remarkable success, reaching the number 1 spot on The UK’s biggest Afrobeats songs chart for six consecutive weeks. The collaboration between American rapper Gunna , Jamaican musician Skillibeng and South African singer Tyla, filmed in Johannesburg, South Africa, showcases the global appeal and cross-cultural influence of contemporary music. The song's popularity underscores the growing recognition and appreciation of African music on an international scale. "Jump" exemplifies the fusion of diverse musical styles and talents, resulting in a chart-topping hit with widespread appeal. "Jump" has earned millions of streams and downloads worldwide since its release.
Qaqaamba (talk) 12:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
- Hooks should contain a bolded link to the article and be under 200 characters long, so I've struck it. Please propose something much shorter.--Launchballer 12:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that "Jump" is a cross-genre collaboration blending South African singer Tyla's vocals, American rapper Gunna's trap, and Jamaican musician Skillibeng's dancehall? "Jump" stands out as the sole hip hop or trap and dancehall infused song on Tyla's eponymous debut studio album, Tyla. Qaqaamba (talk) 13:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- 162 characters after adding an oxford comma, which I have added to the article title. Full review needed.--Launchballer 14:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that "Jump" is a cross-genre collaboration blending singer Tyla's vocals, American rapper Gunna's rap and Jamaican musician Skillibeng's, dancehall? Qaqaamba (talk) 15:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3:… that "Jump" was the only trap-infused recording on Tyla? dxneo (talk) 09:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Qaqaamba and Dxneo: As per WP:DYKINT, the hook should be "perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest." Might I suggest something maybe to do with the "Haibo!" adlib, the famous Hillbrow Tower in the video, or perhaps the viral "they ain't never had a pretty girl from..." trend? —cybertrip👽 ( 💬 • 📝) 08:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3:… that "Jump" was the only trap-infused recording on Tyla? dxneo (talk) 09:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that "Jump" is a cross-genre collaboration blending South African singer Tyla's vocals, American rapper Gunna's trap, and Jamaican musician Skillibeng's dancehall? "Jump" stands out as the sole hip hop or trap and dancehall infused song on Tyla's eponymous debut studio album, Tyla. Qaqaamba (talk) 13:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Flyover (book)
- ... that Flyover, a 2023 American science fiction novel portraying a dystopian future where part of the USA became a theocracy, has been published in French but not yet in English? Source: https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/07/22/lara-marlowe-this-vision-of-a-divided-totalitarian-us-does-not-seem-much-like-fiction/ and https://www.economist.com/culture/2024/04/11/americans-are-turning-to-stories-of-civil-war-real-and-imagined
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:24, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
- The clause adds interest, but I wonder if a snappier and more concise version of the hook also works:
- ALT1 ... that the 2023 American novel Flyover has been published in French but not yet in English?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- WP has strong precedent for discussing any fictional events in present tense, i.e. "becomes" instead of "became" Orchastrattor (talk) 19:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
@Piotrus: My review follows:
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Overall: The article is new enough (created May 17 and nominated May 20), and it's long enough. It's in a complete state, and it neutrally covers the topic, citing a range of relevant periodicals reviewing and covering the topic. Earwig detects minimal overlap with other texts, and spot checking indicates what overlaps there are rise from quotations, proper names, and common terms (like "intelligence agencies"). I read the Irish Times article and verified content cited to it. Other material is either in a language I do not speak or is behind a paywall I cannot breach, so good faith is presumed (and such good faith seems reasonably placed, given the coherence with the Irish Times article). Although the hook fact is technically capable of changing, there seems to be no evidence that it is likely to change, meaning it's still a a definite fact that is unlikely to change
. The hook is interesting, but there are some minor issues pertaining to WP:DYKCITE: The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear
. This is a stricter standard than other evaluations, like GA (where citing to the end of a paragraph is usually fine). This problem applies to the following content in ALT0:
American science fiction novel
: The current version of the article doesn't in the body describe Flyover isn't as an American novel or as a science fiction novel. It is described as "science fiction" only in the infobox and lead (and a category), and without citation.a dystopian future where part of the USA became a theocracy
: This fact about the plot of the book stated in the body text, in the plot section, but it's cited at the end of the paragraph instead ofno later than the end of the sentence in which
the fact appears.- Additionally, as Orchastrattor points, the word "became" in ALT0 should instead be "becomes", as descriptions of literature use the literary present tense. You do this in the body text but not in the text of ALT0.
As these three issues are relatively minor, I think they could be resolved readily. Once they are, please ping me, and I'll approve the nomination. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 18:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC) Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 18:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hydrangeans Please see reworded ALT0 (and ref added in text):
- ALT0: ... that Flyover, a 2023 science fiction novel by an American author, portraying a dystopian future where part of the USA becomes a theocracy, has been published in French but not yet in English?
- --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Thanks for the responsiveness. Flyover being a science fiction novel is now appropriately cited. However, some issues remain:
- The hook calls Douglas Kennedy an American author, but the Flyover article doesn't describe Douglas Kennedy as an American author (or provide a citation for such description). This information and a citation for it should be added, per WP:DYKCITE (
The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear
). - The article doesn't have the necessary citation no later than the end of the sentence in which the fact appears for the book portraying part of the United States becoming a theocracy. There should be a citation no later than the end of the sentence verifying this fact about the book:
In contrast, the United Confederacy, adopting the old Confederate flag and formed by the former Republican Party supporters, operates as a Christian theocracy across the Midwest and the South and bans not only abortion and sex change, but also divorce; offending religious feelings is a cause for the death penalty, often enacted through burning at the stake. Minneapolis has become a semi-neutral territory and a divided city, reminiscent of the divided Berlin of the Cold War era.
- I just remembered that the Manual of Style favors "United States" or "US" but not "USA", so I would recommend the hook use "United States" or "US" but not "USA".
- The hook calls Douglas Kennedy an American author, but the Flyover article doesn't describe Douglas Kennedy as an American author (or provide a citation for such description). This information and a citation for it should be added, per WP:DYKCITE (
- These remain minor issues that I think can be amended readily, so I'm still ready to approve the nomination once they're resolved. Please ping me when you feel these matters are addressed so I can complete the review. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 15:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Thanks for the responsiveness. Flyover being a science fiction novel is now appropriately cited. However, some issues remain:
Mary A. Wray
- ... that Mary A. Wray was the oldest living American actress at the time of her death in 1892? Source: The Oldest Actress Dead, Recent death: The Oldest Actress
- ALT1: ... that Mary A. Wray, a celebrated American actress of the 19th century, was considered the oldest representative of the American stage at the time of her death in 1892? Source: A Woman of the Century
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Street salamander tunnels
X (talk) 05:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
- New enough, long enough, and neutral with all reliable sources. The hook is directly cited. I assume good faith on the book reference. I prefer the first hook. A QPQ is needed. SL93 (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @SL93: QPQ done. Re AGF, you could also access them by Wikipedia Library repositories such as Newspapers.com and NewspaperArchive.com. But Google News archive in itself is freely accessible and reliable. And yes, let's go with ALT0. Regards. X (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Xoak I was only referring to the Moulton source, which I just now noticed I could have read from the external links section. This is now ready to go. SL93 (talk) 08:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looking back at this, this should be promoted without "celebrated". SL93 (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Xoak I was only referring to the Moulton source, which I just now noticed I could have read from the external links section. This is now ready to go. SL93 (talk) 08:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak and SL93: bearing in mind that the only sources we have for this superlative claim are 1892 obituaries, I don't think these hooks are viable—per WP:CONTEXTFACTS, I'd need to see a secondary source (preferably somewhat recent) make either of those claims, or a new hook entirely. Seeing as this has remained unpromoted for more than a month, I suspect my fellow promoters are of the same opinion. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Or they could just say that, instead of doing the nonsensical thing of not saying anything to give the nominator a chance to fix the issue. SL93 (talk) 21:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 21[edit]
Pascal Maynard
- ... that Magic: The Gathering player Pascal Maynard (pictured), criticized for drafting a card to sell rather than play, founded a Magic card store?
- Source: https://dotesports.com/general/news/pascal-maynard-tarmogoyf-magic-the-gathering-2014 - " Pascal Maynard ... had finally made Top 8, the final table, at Magic’s largest tournament in history and came face to face with one of the most valuable cards in the set. And it was absolutely useless for him. ... Pros seemed outraged that a player calling himself professional would choose the money over a better chance at winning." https://monsaintroch.com/2020/nouvel-univers-magique-jeux-saint-roch/ "Le quartier Saint-Roch accueille depuis la mi-octobre une boutique de jeux .... Projet de Pascal Maynard, La Boutique Mythique propose des jeux de cartes, principalement Magic the Gathering." transl. "Since mid-October, the Saint-Roch district has been home to a game store ... A project of Pascal Maynard, La Boutique Mythique offers card games, mainly Magic the Gathering."
GRuban (talk) 13:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC).
- This is my first DYK review so take my comments with a grain of salt. The article is long enough. The article was moved to mainspace 21 May, so is is new enough. I am also not sure if a layman would understand the term "drafting." QPQ is done. The sources are reliable enough. The hook is interesting to me. The image is fine. I think the article is good; personally I think the early life section is very small and should probably be merged into something else. I also think the very first sentence of the article should be with the rest of the opening paragraph to make it look more presentable. Since this is my first DYK review, I am requesting a second opinion on this. Kimikel (talk) 02:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- On second thought I think the hook would more interesting and cohesive if it just focused on the first part. Could be something like "that 'Magic: The Gathering' player Pascal Maynard (pictured) was criticized for selecting a valuable card over a strategic/competitive one in a tournament?" that way its accessible to a general audience and is more focused than the original. again this is my first review so take with a grain of salt. Kimikel (talk) 12:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
LS Power
- ... that LS Power has the largest non-utility owned energy storage portfolio in the United States, including pumped-storage hydroelectricity and lithium-ion battery storage?
AdJHu 胡 03:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long enough and created one day before DYK submission. It's copyvio free. It has an issue with sourcing, however; I marked citation needed on a whole paragraph that lacks citations. Personally, I also feel that the hook is very technical and wordy, and not particularly eye-catching to an outsider. In my opinion, I think the lithium ion battery facility fire in May 2024 is the most interesting thing in the article and would make the best hook. Kimikel (talk) 15:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Voluntary war
- ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a Jewish soldier to forcibly have marital relations with a beautiful woman who had been taken captive?
- ALT1: ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a Jewish soldier to rape and forcibly marry a beautiful woman who had been made a prisoner of war?
- Source: Eisenstein, Judah D. (1970). A Digest of Jewish Laws and Customs - in Alphabetical Order (Ozar Dinim u-Minhagim) (in Hebrew). Tel-Aviv: Ḥ. mo. l. pp. 228–229 (s.v. מלחמה). OCLC 54817857.; Babylonian Talmud, Kiddushin 21b–22a
- Reviewed:
Davidbena (talk) 04:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
- Drive by comment: "forcibly have marital relations" should either be changed to "rape and forcibly marry" or attributed to a source, this is far too euphemistic to have in Wikipedia's voice. Rusalkii (talk) 05:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll make the change, although I do think that it is a bit too strong.Davidbena (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't see how the word "rape" can be in the hook if it isn't in the article. I also think "traditional" may be misleading, unless they are still in effect or only recently stopped being active laws; if they haven't been in effect for hundreds or even thousands of years, then that should be clear as well. Note to Davidbena: rather than edit hooks in situ, please show any revised wordings as an alternate hook (i.e., ALT1, ALT2). I've done so to restore your original hook and show the requested revision as ALT1. Thanks. Also, don't forget to supply your QPQ review (see WP:QPQ); you're supposed to do so within seven days of nominating, and definitely within seven days of being reminded to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:, thanks for your comment. Sometimes it is common practice among writers to use "euphemisms" in Belles-lettres and in prose, rather than use a word having the exact same meaning, but viewed as repugnant (e.g. "to forcibly have marital relations" instead of writing "to rape"). Would it help if I put, in the article, the word "rape" in parentheses, immediately following the words "to forcibly have marital relations"? If so, an alternate reading of the hook can be this:
- ALT2: ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a Jewish soldier to forcibly have marital relations with (i.e. rape) a beautiful woman who had been made a prisoner of war?
- Done - Davidbena (talk) 22:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Alt3 (see below) is my preferred hook, as it clarifies everything. I will also go ahead and add "rape" in the main article. As for your question about use of the word "traditional," the word is still applicable today, since Jews in Israel recognize these ancient customs as being bona-fide Jewish traditions. They, in fact, could still be upheld today if we had an active Sanhedrin, which, in this case, we don't. Another option might simply be to write, instead of "traditional," the word "obsolete." This word, however, is tricky, because if the Sanhedrin were ever to be reinstated, these laws of warfare would still be applicable today. See, for example, Modern attempts to revive the Sanhedrin. Finally, I do not understand what you mean by saying that I must supply my QPQ review. Give me time to read-up on this.Davidbena (talk) 23:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- To the best of my knowledge, I have nominated four articles on "Did you know...", and this present article, if accepted, will be my fifth. The rules in WP:QPQ state that if I've nominated 5 or more articles, only then would I be required to work on the nomination of another person's DYK. I take that to mean that I can begin doing that now. Okay, no problem.Davidbena (talk) 23:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:, I have begun the review process of the DYK article here.Davidbena (talk) 00:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:, thanks for your comment. Sometimes it is common practice among writers to use "euphemisms" in Belles-lettres and in prose, rather than use a word having the exact same meaning, but viewed as repugnant (e.g. "to forcibly have marital relations" instead of writing "to rape"). Would it help if I put, in the article, the word "rape" in parentheses, immediately following the words "to forcibly have marital relations"? If so, an alternate reading of the hook can be this:
- Comment: I don't see how the word "rape" can be in the hook if it isn't in the article. I also think "traditional" may be misleading, unless they are still in effect or only recently stopped being active laws; if they haven't been in effect for hundreds or even thousands of years, then that should be clear as well. Note to Davidbena: rather than edit hooks in situ, please show any revised wordings as an alternate hook (i.e., ALT1, ALT2). I've done so to restore your original hook and show the requested revision as ALT1. Thanks. Also, don't forget to supply your QPQ review (see WP:QPQ); you're supposed to do so within seven days of nominating, and definitely within seven days of being reminded to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll make the change, although I do think that it is a bit too strong.Davidbena (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: and @Rusalkii:, this is to remind you that I have just concluded the work on another author's DYK (see Talk:Architects' Tombs), in order to qualify for approval of my own DYK. Hope that things can be expedited here.Davidbena (talk) 22:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a Jewish soldier to rape and forcibly have marital relations with a beautiful woman who had been made a prisoner of war? The Talmud (Kiddushin 21b) calls this act a concession to man's evil inclination.
- Full review needed now that QPQ has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- This feels like a walking time bomb and shouldn't be run. At least, as long as we're rejecting Template:Did you know nominations/Animal stereotypes of Jews in Palestinian discourse. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 16:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I, personally, would not draw a connection between the article that you mentioned above and this article, here, for the very reason that this article speaks about the laws of warfare in ancient Israel, at a time when there used to be a Sanhedrin. A brief reminder of Wikipedia guidelines for DYK state: "Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area" (End Quote). Davidbena (talk) 21:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's certainly interesting – and as someone who was raised Orthodox Jewish herself, I'm well aware of the anachronism. Most people aren't, though, and at the end of the day, it's not about what's exactly said – it's about what message people think we're trying to send by choosing to run certain hooks. Sadly, I remain opposed to an otherwise fine-looking hook. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron:, would it at all help if we added the caveat that, according to Jewish law (Talmud, Sanhedrin 59a), the laws pertaining to a ‘beautiful captive woman’ apply only to the men of Israel, but do not apply to gentile soldiers? In this sense, women are still protected under the laws of the UN against rape and other forms of sexual violence committed by soldiers of the occupying forces (The Third Geneva Convention of 1949 [in Articles 13 to 16]).[1] While unto the men of Israel, the laws bequeathed to them by their forefathers are immutable,[2] without the Sanhedrin, this law would not apply today. And even when it did apply, the concession was made only after the fact that, in warfare, a soldier would have given vent to his passions anyway, whether he was allowed to do so or not, and the Torah wanted the men of Israel to be blameless, therefore, it excused the first act of passion. The conceptual-jurisprudential question that may be asked by students of International law is whether or not these laws pertain only to the inner circle of Jews when it comes to conquest by war, or can we say that these laws apply also to the Gentiles although they do not see themselves related to the Jewish law, as they have no access to it, nor do they have any say in the matter. In reply to this question the answer is, unequivocally, "No, they do not apply to non-Israelite armies". Davidbena (talk) 15:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's certainly interesting – and as someone who was raised Orthodox Jewish herself, I'm well aware of the anachronism. Most people aren't, though, and at the end of the day, it's not about what's exactly said – it's about what message people think we're trying to send by choosing to run certain hooks. Sadly, I remain opposed to an otherwise fine-looking hook. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I, personally, would not draw a connection between the article that you mentioned above and this article, here, for the very reason that this article speaks about the laws of warfare in ancient Israel, at a time when there used to be a Sanhedrin. A brief reminder of Wikipedia guidelines for DYK state: "Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area" (End Quote). Davidbena (talk) 21:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- This feels like a walking time bomb and shouldn't be run. At least, as long as we're rejecting Template:Did you know nominations/Animal stereotypes of Jews in Palestinian discourse. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 16:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Gardam, Judith; Charlesworth, Hilary (2000). "Protection of Women in Armed Conflict". Human Rights Quarterly. 22 (1). The Johns Hopkins University Press: 157 (note 55). JSTOR 4489270.
- ^ Bleich, J. David; Jacobson, Arthur J. (2012). "The Jewish legal tradition". In Mauro Bussani; Ugo Mattei (eds.). The Cambridge Companion to Comparative Law. Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/CBO9781139017206.017.
Judaism is fundamentally a religion of law, a law that governs every facet of the human condition. Jewish tradition maintains that the Torah – the first five books of the Bible that include the Written Law transmitted by Moses at Mount Sinai as well as the Oral Law accompanying it – contains not merely a set of laws, but also canons of interpretation and principles according to which conflicts among the rules of law may be resolved. Maimonides, the pre-eminent early medieval philosopher and expounder of the Torah, records the doctrine that the Torah will not be altered, either in its entirety or in part, as one of the Thirteen Principles of Faith. The divine nature of the Torah renders it immutable and hence not subject to amendment or modification.
- @DYK admins: , Your views on this, please.Davidbena (talk) 18:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Considering current world-context, I think the hook is a no-go; if a less controversial hook could be found, that would be better. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Okay, since that makes two people here that hold to that view, I would be willing to change the hook to read as follows:
- Considering current world-context, I think the hook is a no-go; if a less controversial hook could be found, that would be better. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4: ... that in the Israelite traditional laws of armed conflict it was permissible for a religious Jewish soldier to abandon the Kosher dietary laws of the Jewish nation and to eat Terefah (non-Kosher foods) when engaged in warfare and there was Kosher food scarcity?
- Source: Eisenstein, Judah D. (1970). A Digest of Jewish Laws and Customs - in Alphabetical Order (Ozar Dinim u-Minhagim) (in Hebrew). Tel-Aviv: Ḥ. mo. l. pp. 228–229 (s.v. מלחמה). OCLC 54817857.; Maimonides (2016). Mishneh Torah by Moses Maimonides (Book of Shoftim) (in Hebrew). Vol. 14. Jerusalem; Bnei Brak: Shabse Frankel. p. 269 (Hil. Melekhim 8:1). OCLC 989980005.
-Davidbena (talk) 16:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Far too long (see WP:DYK200) and rather repetitive. Also, parentheses aren't allowed in a hook. Significant trimming or a new hook needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 22[edit]
Khirbet el-Qutt
- ... that hiding complexes from the Bar Kokhba revolt were found in Khirbet el-Qutt and other places in ancient Samaria?
- Source: "Khirbet el-Qutt -A Fortified Jewish Village in Southern Samaria from the Second Temple Period and the Bar Kokhba Revolt"; "Jewish Settlement in the Toparchy of Acraba during the Second Temple Period - The Archaeological Evidence". Judea and Samaria Research Studies8. 18: 177–200 – via academia.edu; "תולדות היישוב בהר שומרון בתקופה הרומית־ביזנטית". kotar.cet.ac.il. Retrieved 2024-05-21.
- Reviewed:
Owenglyndur (talk) 13:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- I have begun the review process of this DYK, and the hook seems good and accurate, based on the sources cited. The article is also new enough, having been created on 21 May 2024.
Article length and age are fine; no copyright violations or plagiarism concerns; reliable sources are used. The article, however, can be improved by using the common spelling "archaeological" (instead of "archeological"). This will bring uniformity in spelling, as, currently, both spellings are used in the article.Davidbena (talk) 00:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- A suggested improvement might be to add the word "underground" in the hook, even though the link explains what is meant by "hiding complexes." Most editors will not click onto the link, and therefore it is helpful to add this clarification at the very outset. For example, ALT1 ... that underground hiding complexes from the Bar Kokhba revolt were found in Khirbet el-Qutt and other places in ancient Samaria? (End Quote).Davidbena (talk) 01:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Davidbena: I just removed a copyright violation from the article and will be asking for the effected revisions to be deleted. I have not yet check the rest of the article, but given a COPYVIO issue here and on other articles by User:OwenGlyndur (see the revision history of Ein Gedi synagogue and Ein Gedi archaeological site) I recommend that this nomination should be declined until we are confident that the remainder of this article does not breach WP:COPYVIO. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I overlooked the copyright violation. If the creator of this article wishes to rewrite (paraphrase) the sections that he plagiarized, there can be some redress to what was done.Davidbena (talk) 21:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note that after the recent copyvio deletions, the article at 1335 prose characters is too short to qualify for DYK (1500 prose character minimum). If it hasn't been expanded sufficiently within seven days, it should be marked as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Owenglyndur: Have you addressed the above? Z1720 (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I overlooked the copyright violation. If the creator of this article wishes to rewrite (paraphrase) the sections that he plagiarized, there can be some redress to what was done.Davidbena (talk) 21:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm really excited about the opening of the Tuen Ma line
- ... that a train enthusiast was so excited about the opening of the Tuen Ma line that he sang about it?
- ALT1: ... that on this day three years ago, someone was really excited about the opening of Tuen Ma line? Source: SCMPMing Pao
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/REM de l'Est
- Comment: I'd like to request for the date to be June 27th since that day is the third anniversary of the opening of the line and the third anniversary of the phrase being said.
On another note, as I will be going to China from tomorrow until the 30th, and as most will know Wikipedia can't be used in China, I'd appreciate some patience if I don't answer until after that date. I might use roaming to make minor edits or answer some questions before then, but I likely won't make any large-scale edits until after.
S5A-0043Talk 08:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a full review). Per the spirit of WP:BLP, I do not think an article about an autistic boy who became an internet meme is suitable for the Main Page, especially if the full name is mentioned. (The original media reports used 羅先生 (Mr. Law) or 羅同學 (Classmate Law); I do not know when and which HK media started using the full name). The article itself mentions doxxing and negative attention; posting on our Main Page has the potential to lead to further harm. I would suggest not to post this without clear consensus otherwise from a place like the BLP noticeboard. —Kusma (talk) 16:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Valereee and Kusma: I'll consolidate my response over here so as not to split the discussion too much and cause any confusion. For the person name, while the person is indeed referred as 羅同學 or 羅先生 a lot in Chinese media, the ones I found in English (SCMP and The Standard in particular) refer to the person by the full name Jason Law: [13][14][15][16]. In fact The Standard included the romanization of 哲琛 as well, but I decided against including it since it isn't really a critical detail in this case. My reasoning for the usage of the full name is based on WP:COMMONNAME, which states that we "generally prefer the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources" (emphasis added in italics). Yes this isn't an article title but nonetheless since "Mr Law" or "Classmate Law" isn't as widespread in English I don't think it'll be helpful in this case.
I'm not opposed to a discussion on WP:BLPN or somewhere else, but respectfully I'm not sure whether it still matters. As in, it's been three years since the phrase was first said. During these three years, not only has the person made further appearences and interviews [17][18], he has even appeared in an official MTR video re-enacting the scene [19][20]. I'm very sympathetic to his experience of being doxxed, but I genuinely think that given the time passage it isn't particularly as big of a deal as we may think. Him opening up about being doxxed was in 2021; he is still making appearences thanks to the notability from this phrase in 2022. If there was so much of a worry, he could've rejected any further publicity and we wouldn't be seeing him in the MTR video. In addition, there's been far less coverage about the doxxing as far as I can find compared to the more positive aspects, meaning most media (and in turn WP:RSes) don't think this is an important aspect to cover either. I hope I summed up my perspective well enough, and I'm open to any objections.
Regarding a possible merge as suggested on WT:DYK, my opinion would be oppose. The article easily passes WP:GNG with the number of sources covering the subject, and the MTR video shows that it still has a lasting effect even one year later. Plus, I'm not sure how the article can be merged. I already had a hard time finding articles to link to my article on existing content, and (at least for me) it's quite tough to add details of this event into other articles. S5A-0043Talk 02:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Valereee and Kusma: I'll consolidate my response over here so as not to split the discussion too much and cause any confusion. For the person name, while the person is indeed referred as 羅同學 or 羅先生 a lot in Chinese media, the ones I found in English (SCMP and The Standard in particular) refer to the person by the full name Jason Law: [13][14][15][16]. In fact The Standard included the romanization of 哲琛 as well, but I decided against including it since it isn't really a critical detail in this case. My reasoning for the usage of the full name is based on WP:COMMONNAME, which states that we "generally prefer the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources" (emphasis added in italics). Yes this isn't an article title but nonetheless since "Mr Law" or "Classmate Law" isn't as widespread in English I don't think it'll be helpful in this case.
- I find it difficult to judge whether he really embraces his popularity. His YouTube just looks like railfan stuff not trying to profit from his viral appearance. Happy to hear other opinions. —Kusma (talk) 09:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Seems like he's talked to reporters, so he's not shy about coverage – but this has to be an NEVENT fail, right? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- oh, maybe not. hm... i do think this would be better merged, but if we go through with this, let's be kind to the guy. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I find it difficult to judge whether he really embraces his popularity. His YouTube just looks like railfan stuff not trying to profit from his viral appearance. Happy to hear other opinions. —Kusma (talk) 09:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs
- ... that while reviewers generally praised The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs, one reviewer complained that the author was "so nice about his colleagues that it makes you long for a juicy academic vendetta"?
- Reviewed: Fewer than 5 past noms, no QPQ required
- Comment: I don't have a direct source for generally positive reviews, but I haven't been able to find a single review that didn't primarily praise the book. If this is an issue I can reword the hook to exclude that.
Rusalkii (talk) 04:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- @Rusalkii: Article is long enough, well sourced, and is free from copyvio (apart from direct quotes from reviews, obviously). Article is new enough: published into mainspace the same day DYK was submitted. The hook is interesting, but I couldn't access the hook source directly due to a paywall. It doesn't affect the DYK nom but there are a lot of sources like that in the article; I would recommend adding accessible archived URLs for the sources like that if you get a chance. One pedantic thing before approval: since the original quote says that he "is" so nice, the word "was" in the hook should be moved outside of the quotation marks since it's not a direct quote. Other than that there's nothing preventing this from approval on good faith. Kimikel (talk) 21:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Quote fixed. I'll attempt to find an un-paywalled source later. Rusalkii (talk) 22:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 24[edit]
Expedition climbing
- ... that traditional expedition style climbing has been largely replaced by alpine style climbing for the leading Himalayan mountaineers?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Expanded this 5x and only just finished it on 25 May 2024 - hopefully still ok (I didn't know about DYK until today!)
Aszx5000 (talk) 19:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 25[edit]
73 Yards
- ... that "73 Yards" is one of the few Doctor Who episodes not to feature the theme music and title sequence?
- ALT1: ... that Sex Education was still in production when filming on the fourteenth series of Doctor Who began causing Ncuti Gatwa to be absent from most of "73 Yards"? Source: https://screenrant.com/doctor-who-season-14-episode-4-doctor-missing-filming-explained-rtd/
- ALT2: ... that real broadcast journalists were used as extras for the portions of the Doctor Who episode "73 Yards" that were filmed at the BBC Cymru Wales New Broadcasting House? Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EftAeJcCBo
- Reviewed: N/A (second nomination)
- Comment: User:Alex 21 moved the article to the mainspace. While I am the primary author, a few other editors have contributed significantly to the article.
TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC).
- @TheDoctorWho: I would like to propose a few alt hooks as the second overall editor to the page. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 00:01, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that the Doctor is barely in the Doctor Who episode "73 Yards"?
Source: https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who-why-ncuti-gatwas-doctor-isnt-in-73-yards/
- ALT4: ... that the Doctor Who episode "73 Yards" is only the fourth episode in the history of the show to omit the theme song? Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/doctor-who-mid-season-questions-73-yards-explained-1235908268/
- Thank you for the extra ALT hooks! I originally had something similar to ALT4 drafted up, but I rewrote it because the source doesn't explicitly state that it was the fourth episode to omit it. While I don't dispute it's a fact, we only have two separate sources that previously three other previous episodes that exclude it, but not that those are the only three. It was a slight case of WP:SYNTH and should probably be re-written in the article, unless such a source exists. That said, I don't have a problem with ALT3 if a reviewer chooses to accept it, but I do of course have a slight preference for the ones that I wrote 😅. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Adama Touré (PAI general secretary)
- ... that on February 3, 1986, the African Independence Party leaders Adama Touré and Adama Touré were released from detention?
- Source: Afrique nouvelle, Issues 1902-1927. 1986. p. 9
Soman (talk) 21:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 26[edit]
Yang Jingru (speed skater)
- ... that speed skater Yang Jingru is the first Chinese gold medalist at the 2024 Winter Youth Olympics in Gangwon, South Korea?
- Source: 首金!杨婧茹获冬青奥会短道速滑女子1500米金牌
- ALT1: ... that during the 2024 Winter Youth Olympics, Chinese speed skater Yang Jingru and her teammate used 'rabbit tactic', which the TikTok account of the International Olympic Committee praised as an 'incredible strategy'? Source: Chinese teenage skaters' "rabbit tactic" goes viral - Xinhua
- ALT2: ... that Chinese speed skater Yang Jingru and her teammate's performance at the 1500 metres short speed skating in the 2024 Winter Youth Olympics was considered a 'genius trick'? Source: https://www.foxsports.com.au/olympics/better-than-bradbury-fans-melt-down-over-most-genius-trick-olympics-have-ever-seen/news-story/1897d6e4bf4078f7a30d66ed5f6fbfb3
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Larrabee County, Iowa
Toadboy123 (talk) 11:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC).
- I have some sourcing concerns on this new enough and large enough expansion. I have to AGF on the Chinese-language sourcing.
- Can we say that "the IOC" praised it as "genius" when their TikTok account did?
- The Fox Sports Australia piece is similarly fluffy/listicle-y. The "genius trick" item was actually in SB Nation here, and we should replace Fox Sports Australia with the original source.
- I'd like to see these issues addressed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Toadboy123: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I have made modifications as per the issues you stated: 1. updated the ALT1 hook to state that TikTok account mentioned it as such. 2. Updated the link by replacing Fox News with SB Nation. Let me know if its good to go now. Toadboy123 (talk) 03:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Toadboy123: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Ludwig Krug
- ... that German sculptor Ludwig Krug created a limestone relief depicting Adam and Eve in the fall of man (pictured)?
- Source: "Adam and Eve (The Fall)". Google Arts & Culture. Retrieved 26 May 2024.
SL93 (talk) 10:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 ... that German sculptor Ludwig Krug created a limestone relief featuring an ape that symbolizes the yearning of flesh being the cause of the biblical fall of man (pictured)? SL93 (talk) 22:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Article is long enough and was published to mainspace same day as DYK submission. It's well-sourced and copyvio free. The first hook is interesting, and the image meets criteria and adds to the hook. ALT1 is a little too wordy in my opinion, I think the original is better. Hook source is good. QPQ done. However, the last paragraph of the article is written in a stilted way, with semicolons connecting too many ideas, leading to it becoming difficult to read by the end. I would recommend going back and breaking some of those ideas up to make it easier to read, or at least adding "and" in front of the Solnhofen Limestone part. Other than that, there's nothing else that needs to be corrected. Kimikel (talk) 19:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Kimikel I have edited the paragraph. SL93 (talk) 00:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 27[edit]
Kaur (short film)
- ... that in the British short film Kaur, a Sikh father does not approve of his daughter wearing a turban?
- Source: ""Kaur" told the story of a Sikh woman who chose to defy her father's wishes by wearing a turban."...[21]
- Reviewed: William Post
- Comment: Still have a bit more work to do on it
Whispyhistory (talk) 05:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC).
- A new hook has to be proposed as the current one does not meet WP:DYKFICTION. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1... that the British short film Kaur (2022), toured Gurudwaras, festivals and universities in the UK before appearing on ITVX, BritBox and then Netflix? Whispyhistory (talk) 06:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still not so sure if this works either. @Launchballer: What do you think? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Parentheses aren't allowed per WP:DYK200, and I think 'ITVX, Britbox and then Netflix' is pure namedropping (and it should really be 'Britbox, and'). I'll take a look when I get back, but I'd be inclined to take a rewritten version of ALT1, like so: ALT1a: ... that prior to appearing on video-on-demand services, the 2022 short film Kaur had toured festivals, universities, and gurdwaras? Also, is there a difference between 'gurdwara' and 'gurudwara'?--Launchballer 11:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just had a flick through the references. Per ref #3, there's a hook in some variant of ... that Dr Parvinder Shergill became so fed up of waiting for another film to be led by a Sikh woman that she co-wrote and co-produced her own?.--Launchballer 14:42, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you both... I'll work on it... sounds good. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just had a flick through the references. Per ref #3, there's a hook in some variant of ... that Dr Parvinder Shergill became so fed up of waiting for another film to be led by a Sikh woman that she co-wrote and co-produced her own?.--Launchballer 14:42, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Parentheses aren't allowed per WP:DYK200, and I think 'ITVX, Britbox and then Netflix' is pure namedropping (and it should really be 'Britbox, and'). I'll take a look when I get back, but I'd be inclined to take a rewritten version of ALT1, like so: ALT1a: ... that prior to appearing on video-on-demand services, the 2022 short film Kaur had toured festivals, universities, and gurdwaras? Also, is there a difference between 'gurdwara' and 'gurudwara'?--Launchballer 11:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still not so sure if this works either. @Launchballer: What do you think? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2... that British Sikh physician Parvinder Shergill could not find a recent mainstream English film led by a woman that looked like her so she co-wrote and co-produced her own?Actor, writer and producer Parvinder Shergill...she's had to wait too long to see movies featuring women who look like her....Bend it like Beckham, 20 years ago, was the last mainstream film to feature women from her background...She co-wrote and co-produced it ...[22][23] Whispyhistory (talk) 13:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Reads a bit breathless. I'm going to suggest:
- ALT2a... that after British Sikh physician Parvinder Shergill could not find a recent mainstream English film led by a woman that looked like her, she co-wrote and co-produced her own?
- ...and call for a full reviewer.--Launchballer 21:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Croton alabamensis
- ... that the Alabama croton is related to plants found in Cuba and is cultivated at the Mt. Cuba Center in Delaware?
- Source: X, 1034436770698604544: "Alabama croton, with its silvery undersides on its foliage, balances out this late summer arrangement. Croton alabamensis var. alabamensis is found in the wild in just a few counties in Alabama. We have some specimens planted along our Main Drive,", "C. alabamensis emerges alone on a long branch that is sister to Croton section Corylocroton and the Cuban endemic genus Moacroton", Molecular Ecology (2006) 15, 2735–2751
- ALT1: ... that the two varieties of Alabama croton are separated by more than 1,000 kilometres (620 mi)? Source: "In a surprising discovery in 1989, C. alabamensis was found in central Texas, more than 1000 km from the Alabama populations" Molecular Ecology (2006) 15, 2735–2751
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Drew Thomas
TDogg310 (talk) 00:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
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- Cited: - For ALT0, Twitter/X is generally not a reliable source, and the other citation for the plant being at the Mt. Cuba Center in the article fails verification. For ALT1, the source given in the nomination is different to the one in the article (Southwestern Rare and Endangered Plants Proceedings of the Second Conference), and both are offline so I can't check.
- Interesting:
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Overall: Thanks for doing a QPQ even though you didn't have to! The one problem is the hook citing - due to the citation given for ALT1 being different to the one used for that fact in the article with both being offline, I don't think I can give this an AGF pass. If you either add the Molecular Ecology source to the statement in the article or provide the relevant quote from Southwestern Rare and Endangered Plants Proceedings of the Second Conference, I think I can pass ALT1 (but not ALT0). Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 02:04, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 28[edit]
List of historic places in Kaikōura District
- ... that Cumming "Cum" Haswell erected a historic villa, later described as "modestly-scaled but ornamental"?
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
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- Interesting: - perhaps state that Haswell was a carpenter, as he could have just been the owner?
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Overall: Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 29[edit]
MT Petar Hektorović
- ... that in 2017, the MT Petar Hektorović transported 52,912 vehicles from Split to Vis, but an estimated 41% of them ended up on the other side of the island?
- ALT1: ... that when the MT Petar Hektorović was temporarily reassigned, one Vis resident wrote an online post to the ship, writing "the waves of Vis grieve for you"? Source: Što da učinimo da nam se vratiš? Viška vala tuguje za tobom...
- ALT2: ... that when Jadrolinija bought the MT Petar Hektorović, it was named for an author and poet from a town the ship no longer services? Source: In 1998, it was bought by Jadrolinija and renamed Petar Hektorović. It was primarily purchased with the aim of maintaining the local line Split - Stari Grad, which is why it was named after the famous Hvar poet Petar Hektorović. Today, it mainly maintains the Split - Vis line.
- Reviewed:
ThaesOfereode (talk) 02:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long enough, and well sourced throughout without copyvio. Article is new enough (DYK submitted 5 days after creation). All three hooks are interesting; I think ALT1 is the most interesting and eye-catching, but personally, I would replace "online post" with "online memorial" to better characterize what the resident wrote. All hook sources are reliable. All in all, there's nothing else to comment on regarding the article. @ThaesOfereode: let me know what you think of replacing "post" with "memorial," then I'll approve it either way. Kimikel (talk) 20:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Kimikel: "Online memorial" works great, as would "online in memoriam"; I think either would be a better descriptor than just "post", which is sort of vague. Thanks for reviewing! ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Rhapsody (climb)
... that when first climbed in 2006, Rhapsody became the first-ever E11-graded traditional rock climbing route?
- Reviewed:
Aszx5000 (talk) 19:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
- Not really sure if this particular hook fact or wording is the best option here. It's really reliant on specialist information, specifically a grade of rock climbing that isn't even a universal or international one. My suggestion would be, if possible, to propose a hook that could be easily understood even by non-rock climbers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about "... that when first climbed in 2006, Rhapsody was the hardest traditional climbing route in the world?", with sourcing here Last year he succeeded in making what is generally recognised as the world's hardest 'traditional' climb, Rhapsody, on Dumbarton Rock from the BBC, and Rhapsody is officially known as the world's hardest traditional rock climb from Telegraph. Aszx5000 (talk) 15:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's a much better hook. This is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I am doing a GA review of this article. If passed, I would recommend passing the DYK hook as well. xq 11:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- 48JCL, please note that the GA reviewer may not also review the DYK nomination. Different reviewers are required per DYK rules. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: sorry, that is not what I meant for my comment to go for. I meant to say that a spotcheck was not needed as I did one in the GAR. 48JCL 13:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- 48JCL, even so, that's still not appropriate. The DYK reviewer needs to do their own checking independent of the GA review, and should take nothing for granted by the fact that it achieved GA status or that some other reviewer approved parts of its review. There have been some GAs that ended up being delisted based on significant issues found by the subsequent DYK reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: sorry, that is not what I meant for my comment to go for. I meant to say that a spotcheck was not needed as I did one in the GAR. 48JCL 13:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- 48JCL, please note that the GA reviewer may not also review the DYK nomination. Different reviewers are required per DYK rules. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I am doing a GA review of this article. If passed, I would recommend passing the DYK hook as well. xq 11:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's a much better hook. This is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about "... that when first climbed in 2006, Rhapsody was the hardest traditional climbing route in the world?", with sourcing here Last year he succeeded in making what is generally recognised as the world's hardest 'traditional' climb, Rhapsody, on Dumbarton Rock from the BBC, and Rhapsody is officially known as the world's hardest traditional rock climb from Telegraph. Aszx5000 (talk) 15:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 30[edit]
Felix Eberty
- ... that the 1846 book The Stars and World History by Felix Eberty, which contemplated a faraway observer seeing "the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham", inspired a young Albert Einstein?
- Source: "By the time that Felix Eberty, a German jurist and amateur astronomer, anonymously published “The Stars and World History,” in 1846, it was well known that light had a finite speed... Eberty was particularly fascinated by what this delay meant for a faraway observer of our planet. Perched on a distant star, he wrote, such a person might “see the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham.” Furthermore, by hopscotching across the cosmos, “he will be able to represent to himself, as rapidly as he pleases, that moment in the world’s history which he wishes to observe at leisure.” Eberty had witnessed great gains in the speed of transportation and communication during his lifetime, and he believed that humanity might soon be travelling even faster than light.
Among the impressionable young Germans who read Eberty and Bernstein was one named Albert Einstein."
The New YorkerThriley (talk) 21:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC).
- The article is sufficiently long and new, has citations throughout, and appears to be written neutrally. I AGF on offline and German language sources. QPQ is done. There is some trouble in the references with a citation template, and then there's the matter of the hook. The hook says Eberty "inspired" Einstein, but the above quote does not verify that, only that Einstein read Eberty. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Erdős–Moser equation
- ... that all solutions of the Erdős–Moser equation correspond to convergents of ln(2), yielding "one of very few instances where a large scale computation of a numerical constant has an application"?
- ALT1: ... that the only known solution to the Erdős–Moser equation is 1 + 2 = 3?
- Source: [24]
- Reviewed:
LucasBrown 11:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC).
- Pinging David Eppstein if he could contribute to the nomination (either as a reviewer or to suggest hooks) as the current hook seems very specialist or complex and thus may not be easily understood by general readership. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'll also note that the article would be better with a bit more prose to contextualize what is going on here. Currently the article itself is very inaccessible to the average reader, it would be nice to have a background of why this equation is important (I see the term "Diophantine equation" being used, maybe you could include a few sentences on how this relates to the article) and some prose (as opposed to proofs) to convey the methods being used to solve it. Sohom (talk) 01:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- According to our DYK rules, "Hooks should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest". I don't think that is the case for the proposed hook. Also, I think the hook is misleading: as far as we know, it could be the case that all solutions of the equation are the single solution 1+2=3, unrelated to the log(2) calculation. And calling this an "application" is dubious when it is just a mathematical calculation used to support another mathematical calculation. I have generally interpreted this rule as requiring that the hook connect the subject to some real-world topic beyond mathematics (just as we require that hooks about fiction connect the subject to some real-world topic beyond the plot). Unfortunately I see no non-mathematics at all in the article, on which to build a hook. It's kind of interesting to me that the known lower bound on a second solution is such a huge number, but I don't think I represent a general reader for this purpose. I do also agree that the walls of equations make the article hard to read (not just to the average reader), but that is not really a DYK criterion. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'll also note that the article would be better with a bit more prose to contextualize what is going on here. Currently the article itself is very inaccessible to the average reader, it would be nice to have a background of why this equation is important (I see the term "Diophantine equation" being used, maybe you could include a few sentences on how this relates to the article) and some prose (as opposed to proofs) to convey the methods being used to solve it. Sohom (talk) 01:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- To be honest, as a non-math guy, this hook is remarkably uninteresting. Though that is obviously my opinion, it shows that it is likely not a suitable one, or the article as a whole as a matter of a fact. TheBritinator (talk) 01:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about "... that the only known solution for the Erdős–Moser equation is "1 + 2 = 3" ? DS (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think it's better. It still doesn't relate to non-mathematics at all, but at least it's (1) at a level understandable to the general reader, and (2) kind of intriguing how something so basic-looking as 1+2=3 could be the basis of something where we don't know if there is another solution. The question is whether it's enough better to pass the interestingness test. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I also think that's better. I was going to suggest something like "... no one knows whether the Erdős–Moser equation has more than one solution". XOR'easter (talk) 22:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have added the 1+2=3 hook to the list. - LucasBrown 04:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 is brilliant! Schwede66 04:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about "... that the only known solution for the Erdős–Moser equation is "1 + 2 = 3" ? DS (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- To be honest, as a non-math guy, this hook is remarkably uninteresting. Though that is obviously my opinion, it shows that it is likely not a suitable one, or the article as a whole as a matter of a fact. TheBritinator (talk) 01:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now that additional hooks have been suggested. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 2[edit]
Talbot H. Green
- ... that one of the streets in San Francisco is named after a man who was using a false identity?
- Source: Hussey, John Adam (March 1939). New Light upon Talbot H. Green: As Revealed by His Own Letters and Other Sources. University of California Press.
- Reviewed:
Jacob0790 (talk) 20:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC).
- I note that at the time the street was named (circa 1850) it was not known to the people of San Francisco that Green was using a false identity. Might want to adjust the verb tense to reflect that. For instance "after a man who was using a false identity?" Erp (talk) 00:31, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense, Erp. Thanks, Jacob0790 (talk) 00:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if giving a tiny bit more detail might help. "that Green Street in San Francisco is named after a respected local businessman who was using a false identity to evade justice?". Erp (talk) 03:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I believe it's up to reviewers. They will definitely take it in consideration Jacob0790 (talk) 22:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if giving a tiny bit more detail might help. "that Green Street in San Francisco is named after a respected local businessman who was using a false identity to evade justice?". Erp (talk) 03:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense, Erp. Thanks, Jacob0790 (talk) 00:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Jean-Pierre Sohahong-Kombet
- ... that Jean-Pierre Sohahong-Kombet became the Ambassador of the Central African Republic to the United States when he was 27?
- Reviewed:
Faldi00 (talk) 14:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
- New, (barely) long enough, some writing issues (sections should not exist for just one sentence, the content can neatly be folded into a single section); no plagiarism, QPQ not needed. The outstanding issue is that much of the article, including the hook, are not reliable sourced: dignitymemorial is in no definition a reliable source, and, for that matter, neither is tributearchive (per WP:UGC). The info sourced to such sites should be removed (will the article still be long enough when this takes place?), and in any case should not be used for hooks. Dahn (talk) 17:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback you gave me since it is the first time I have submitted a DYK nomination. Unfortunately, the only sources that mentioned his age when he became the ambassador to the US and his wife are from User-generated content websites. Sometimes, finding reliable sources of Central African politicians is quite difficult since the country has few online media news. Hence, I have to cite from UGC websites. However, if I remove those sites, the article will still be long enough since it only covers a small portion of the content. Also, it still implicitly states that he was 27 when he became the ambassador by counting the age from his birth and the date he was appointed. Hence, can I cite a hook without citing a source since it is indirectly mentioned in the article? Faldi00 (talk) 00:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dahn: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 01:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't now how to respond. The basic requirement at DYK is that articles, and especially hooks, be reliably sourced -- and the sources used here are of the worst possible kind, alas. Dahn (talk) 07:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with the reviewer's comments. If the issues are not fixed, the nomination will be rejected Faldi00. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't now how to respond. The basic requirement at DYK is that articles, and especially hooks, be reliably sourced -- and the sources used here are of the worst possible kind, alas. Dahn (talk) 07:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Dot and Bubble
- ... that the Doctor Who episode "Dot and Bubble" is inspired by Black Mirror?
- ALT1: ... that the Doctor Who episode "Dot and Bubble" does not focus on the Doctor? Source: https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/sci-fi-shows/doctor-who-season-1-episode-5-dot-and-bubble-review-recap/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Auto Dollar
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
- ALT2: ... that the 2024 Doctor Who episode "Dot and Bubble" was first conceptualized in 2009? Source: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/dot-bubble-doctor-who-black-mirror-newsupdate/
- Just wanted to provide a second ALT to pick from . TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: @OlifanofmrTennant: The episode is not "'inspired by' Black Mirror", the source states nothing about inspiration and neither does the article, so please stop adding it here and in the article. ภץאคгöร 10:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
David Fishwick
... that David Fishwick became the biggest minibus supplier in Britain after finding he could not afford a chip butty for lunch?Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/fame-fortune/like-big-banks-hate-do-nothing-help-public/- ALT1: ... that David Fishwick founded "Bank on Dave" after big banks abruptly stopped lending his customers money? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/jul/06/bank-of-dave-small-business-finance-dave-fishwick
- ALT2: ... that David Fishwick presented the 2018 Channel 4 series How to Get Rich Quick? Source: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/how-to-get-rich-quick-can-you-hear-it-ka-ching-1.3574894
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Toro de fuego
Launchballer 12:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
- Will be reviewing this. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 13:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Good to go! 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 21:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I call false positive as that quote is fully attributed and therefore not a copyright violation.--Launchballer 22:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT0. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 22:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- pulled at request of nominator. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- For context, The Times published a piece yesterday morning that directly contradicted my hook, which meant it wasn't accurate (he could afford a chip butty, just a slightly smaller one than usual). I also noticed that the Telegraph did not mention lunch, probably because it was in fact dinner. I will propose some more hooks later, but for now, I got severely carried away expanding the article, meaning that around only three eighths of this has actually been reviewed. This will definitely require a new reviewer. (Incidentally, that "Fighting Against the Elite" video is actually Creative Commons, so I have uploaded it to this nomination.)--Launchballer 20:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that David Fishwick went from a £27.50 a week pebbledashing job to becoming the biggest minibus supplier in Britain?
- ALT4: ... that David Fishwick used to stuff his wallet with paper to appear richer to prospective sellers?
- ALT5: ... that David Fishwick married his wife after she told him his music was rubbish?
- ALT6: ... that David Fishwick decided he no longer wanted to be poor following an incident involving a chip butty?
- ALT7: ... that a Times reviewer of Channel 4's Bank of Dave opined that David Fishwick "could have been one of the best comedy characters of 2012"?
- ... and if "200 characters" wasn't a thing, I'd propose "that David Fishwick's How to Get Rich Quick "encourages people of modest means to pursue equally modest dreams in the very modest hopes, several weeks of hard work later, of doubling their modest investments"?.--Launchballer 10:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT8: ... that when a writer contacted David Fishwick to express interest in making a film about his bank, he insisted that it was shot in Burnley?--Launchballer 13:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- For context, The Times published a piece yesterday morning that directly contradicted my hook, which meant it wasn't accurate (he could afford a chip butty, just a slightly smaller one than usual). I also noticed that the Telegraph did not mention lunch, probably because it was in fact dinner. I will propose some more hooks later, but for now, I got severely carried away expanding the article, meaning that around only three eighths of this has actually been reviewed. This will definitely require a new reviewer. (Incidentally, that "Fighting Against the Elite" video is actually Creative Commons, so I have uploaded it to this nomination.)--Launchballer 20:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 3[edit]
Over the Hill with the Swords of a Thousand Men (The Boys episode)
- ... that writers for "Over the Hill with the Swords of a Thousand Men" researched the experiments of Nikola Tesla for the use of Stormfront's lightning in the episode?
- Reviewed:
TarheelBornBred (talk) 17:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC).
- Passerby comment (this is not a full review, feel free for others to take this nomination to review): to a reader without context not familiar with characters in the show, "Stormfront's lightning" will read weirdly, like a misspelled comment on the brightness of the Stormfront website. "Researched" is also a bit high-falutin', it's not like they actually did some physics research for the episode - the source quotes them as saying "we looked at Nikola Tesla". Maybe something like:
- ALT1: that writers for "Over the Hill with the Swords of a Thousand Men" were inspired by the experiments of Nikola Tesla for depicting a lightning attack in the episode?
- ALT2: that writers for the episode "Over the Hill with the Swords of a Thousand Men" were inspired by the experiments of Nikola Tesla for depicting a lightning attack used by the malicious superheroine Stormfront?
- ALT2 includes Stormfront still if desired, but clarifies that it's talking about a character not the website. SnowFire (talk) 03:37, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Inauguration of Lai Ching-te
- ... that China launched a joint military exercise in response to Lai Ching-te's inauguration?
- Source: AP
- ALT1: ... that members of the Kuomintang refused to attend Lai Ching-te's inauguration after losing by 10 percent? Source: Radio Taiwan International
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First time here at DYK, please correct me if I make any mistakes, thanks!
'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC).
- It looks like this meets the DYK requirements as far as length and timing. The sources look good. I'm not too familiar with Wikipedia's approach to this topic area, but have you reviewed Wikipedia:Manual of Style/China- and Chinese-related articles? I don't personally see any issues but I wanted to at least do my diligence. Once we figure that out, each hook should also add a little more context for the average reader, explaining a bit more of the who / where. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @CanonNi: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720:, thanks for the ping. Honestly, I kinda forgot about this nomination... @Shooterwalker: thanks for the feedback. I've reviewed the MOS and think that the article and hook meet the guidlines and would be happy to fix any mistakes. About the context, I agree, so maybe we could change it to something like "...that China launched a military exercise in response to the inauguration of Lai Ching-te as president of Taiwan? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 4[edit]
Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr.
- ... that according to a biography of John D. Rockefeller, "At times ... Rockefeller sounded more like Karl Marx than our classical image of the capitalist"?
- Source: "Chernow proposes a shrewder thought: 'At times, when he railed against cutthroat competition and the vagaries of the business cycle, Rockefeller sounded more like Karl Marx than our classical image of the capitalist.'" Morrow, Lance. (June 15, 1998) "Oil in the family". Time Magazine. Vol. 151, no. 23.
- Source: "The archivist then brought out this 1700-page transcript of an interview that had been privately commissioned by the family in the nineteen-teens, privately conducted over a three-year period ... I read about twenty-five pages of that interview, closed it, and called my editor, and said I was doing the book." Frumkes, Lewis. (January 1999). "A Conversation With ... Ron Chernow". Writer. Vol. 112, No. 1.
DrOrinScrivello (talk) 16:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 5[edit]
Nathan Steuer
- ... that Nathan Steuer (pictured) started tournament-level Magic: The Gathering as a pre-teen, saying the "13 and up" on Magic packaging was "just recommended"?
- Source: https://magic.gg/news/the-week-that-was-the-greatest-steuer-ever-told "The year was 2015, and young Nathan Steuer was playing in his first-ever Grand Prix Day Two."
- https://web.archive.org/web/20210513172806/https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpsd15/magical-futures-2015-08-09 "We used to tease him about the ‘13 and up' on Magic packaging until he cracked back ‘It's just recommended'." https://magic.gg/news/the-week-that-was-the-greatest-steuer-ever-told
- ALT1: ... that Magic: The Gathering world champion Nathan Steuer (pictured) started tournament-level play as a pre-teen, saying the "13 and up" on Magic packaging was "just recommended"?
- Same content just a bit more explicit about why he's a big deal.
GRuban (talk) 14:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
Lookwide Camp
- ... that when the Lookwide Camp was announced, the location had not yet been selected?
- Source: Gaskell, Erin; AI-assisted reporter (2023-10-18). "Scouts commemorate historical 'Lookwide Camp' with annual night hike". Hexham Courant.
--evrik (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
- This is an interesting fact about scouting. The article is sourced reliably and covers the Did You Know criteria. Moondragon21 (talk) 02:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- A full review is needed as the above review did not check every criterion fully. Also pinging Chipmunkdavis given that they raised an objection to the current hook at WT:DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The hook is not supported by the cited source. Much of the article is cited to unreliable sources (e.g. zyworld.com or an AI-assisted reporter), sources which have interests in promoting the subject like "1st Hexham Scout Group", or just uncited, like the list in the "Participants" section. The hook is only borderline interesting. As the issues are numerous and the nominator under a lengthy block, I am marking this as rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:35, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 6[edit]
Breaking Through (2022 film)
- ... that in order to embody her acting role as a short-track speed skater in the movie Breaking Through, actress Meng Meiqi inserted a rock in one of her ice skates in order to feel real pain?
- ALT1: ... that the 2022 Chinese sports drama movie Breaking Through was shot in Northeast China at temperatures of −10 °C (14 °F)? Source: 《我心飞扬》曝海报 孟美岐领衔“四朵金花”冲金
- ALT2: ... that for her role as short-track speed skater in the movie Breaking Through, actress Meng Meiqi gained a weight of 15 kg (33 lb) in order to be closer in terms of physique of a short-track speed skater? Source: 《我心飞扬》曝海报 孟美岐领衔“四朵金花”冲金
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Daniel Chapo
Toadboy123 (talk) 11:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC).
- Full review is to follow (spot check seems to check out though for newness and length), but before the review continues, I would suggest that the article be given a copyedit. The first hook is probably the best option here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Sure. Do let me know what copyedit I should do for the article. Toadboy123 (talk) 18:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Both the Production and Pre-publicity and release sections are the ones in need of copyediting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: So I have completed the copyedit on the stated sections. Do let me know how it is? Toadboy123 (talk) 13:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Both the Production and Pre-publicity and release sections are the ones in need of copyediting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 7[edit]
Scybalium fungiforme
- ... that the flowers of Scybalium fungiforme are covered in sharp scales that require opossums, with their opposable claws, to tear them open?
- Source: "Today, scientists have added another oddity to the list. Researchers had long suspected that because the female flowers of S. fungiforme are covered in hard scales that shield its nectar, it couldn't be pollinated by a bird or bee. And now, thanks to night vision cameras, scientists have their culprit: opossums." Shultz, David (12 February 2020). "Caught in the act: Opossums pollinate bizarre parasitic plant". Science. American Association for the Advancement of Science. doi:10.1126/science.abb2822. Retrieved 7 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Esther Tailfeathers
- Comment: If there are any alternative wordings for the hook, I would be very much welcome to hear it! It is a very interesting plant that I believe would make a great hook. Thank you in advance to the reviewer for taking their time reading through this article!
Ornithoptera (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC).
- Starting Review--Kevmin § 17:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Article new enough and long enough. The sections are all cited, and sources are all of good quality and neutrally represented. The description section is a little close to the translated source text and should be massaged into smoother flowing prose. As an alternative to hook, you could go with
- Alt1 ... that the primary pollinators of the parasitic Scybalium fungiforme plant (pictured) are saruê possums?--Kevmin § 16:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Kevmin:! Thank you for taking the time to read through the article,
and I will definitely take into account your suggestion in a moment(just reworded in accordance to your suggestion, if you have any more suggestions to help with the flow, you are welcome to share them!). I appreciate the alternative hook, but to me it feels a bit dry. I would like to emphasize in the hook how the flowers are torn open by possums. Matter of factly telling people that an animal pollinates plants (both of which they might not know) feel a bit dry to those who are not familiar with plant pollination. To folks who are familiar with pollination, knowing that mammals pollinate flowers is an uncommon pollination method and thus interesting, but its too niche to be hook-y to me. Including the idea that the flowers are essentially hidden away until they are torn open could be quite interesting to someone unfamiliar with the subject area. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: I can respect that. With the original hook, its long feeling, we should be looking to streamline it. None of the sources used so far have called the inflorescence scales "sharp", as a note. The Amorim et al 2020 paper specifically uses the terms "scrap and remove" and "desquamate" so maybe going with a peeling analogy. Also did you see there is a Dec 2002 paper also lead by Amorim which details bat visitation to the flowers doi:10.1002/ecy.3935 and documents two possum species and a second major scale removing group in the ruby-crowned tanager, Tachyphonus coronatus?--Kevmin § 20:21, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Alt2...that before they can be pollinated, flowers of Scybalium fungiforme need to be forcefully peeled open by possums or tanagers?
- @Kevmin: Hi! I did not! Fascinating resource though! It sounds like a much improved hook, and I didn't notice that article while I was doing my research! You are very much welcome to insert it into the article, but it sounds good to me! Ornithoptera (talk) 20:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Kevmin:! Thank you for taking the time to read through the article,
Better Off Dead?
- ... that a reviewer called a documentary on assisted suicide "so funny"? Source: "What I wasn't expecting was for it to be quite so funny." Better Off Dead review – a powerful (and funny) case against assisted dying
- ALT0a: ... that a reviewer did not expect a documentary on assisted suicide to be so funny?
- ALT1: ... that a reviewer said that Better Off Dead? "unnerves you so much you half-wish you hadn't seen it"? Source: "Every so often, a documentary comes along that unnerves you so much you half-wish you hadn't seen it." The week in TV: Better Off Dead?; Bridgerton; The Gathering; The Big Cigar – review
- ALT2: ... that in Better Off Dead?, there is an automated hotline for assisted suicide? Source: "We hear the automated voice message on the 24-hour Maid hotline that those seeking to die can call." Better Off Dead? review – Liz Carr’s blistering film may well change your mind about assisted dying
- Reviewed: Grant Hermanns
Sdrqaz (talk) 03:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC).
- no issues with the article. original hook is bad, taking a quote out of context. alt1 is boring. alt2 is confusing, and made me think that there was a hotline you could call in the documentary. ltbdl (talk) 02:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Rating this article as a Start seems ... pretty low (is it
"developing but still quite incomplete"
?). If I may be frank, this review is seems a little harsh. ALT0 was not taken out of context: the reviewer is saying that the documentary was funny, no (see the quote)? I don't know how to address the charge of ALT1 being boring (I thought that something being unnerving and making a reviewer regret watching was interesting), and as for ALT2, I don't really follow: I believe that they did call the hotline in the documentary. Sdrqaz (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)- of course the review is harsh, this is going on the main page. as for alt2, the wording is unclear. perhaps say something like "they call an automated hotline"? ltbdl (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've added ALT0a, which hopefully addresses the concern of
"original hook is bad, taking a quote out of context"
, given that it is the same formulation as the source. Sdrqaz (talk) 22:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)- My 2c: I'd paraphrase so funny to hilarious instead of writing it in Wikipedia's voice; see MOS:QUOTEPOV. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Nineteen Ninety-Four guy and Ltbdl: My interpretation of QUOTEPOV was that attribution was preferred in this instance as
"Concise opinions that are not overly emotive can often be reported with attribution instead of direct quotation"
(second paragraph). Sdrqaz (talk) 23:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)- Right, which is why it should be directly attributed to The Times instead of referring to the publication as merely the reviewer, and so funny should neither be quoted nor written in Wiki's voice since it creates POV issues either way:
- @Nineteen Ninety-Four guy and Ltbdl: My interpretation of QUOTEPOV was that attribution was preferred in this instance as
- My 2c: I'd paraphrase so funny to hilarious instead of writing it in Wikipedia's voice; see MOS:QUOTEPOV. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've added ALT0a, which hopefully addresses the concern of
- of course the review is harsh, this is going on the main page. as for alt2, the wording is unclear. perhaps say something like "they call an automated hotline"? ltbdl (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Rating this article as a Start seems ... pretty low (is it
- ALT0b: ... that The Times did not expect a documentary on assisted suicide would be that hilarious?
- hilarious should be neutral enough with attribution to the source, IMO. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 06:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 8[edit]
Cleo Hill Jr.
- ... that Cleo Hill Jr. coached the college basketball team where his father had played over 60 years earlier?
BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
- Mostly looks good; I added a link to college basketball for good measure. The "had played" indicating the start of his father's career is a little cheeky, but it's not wrong so I'm cool with it. Article long enough, sources are solid, no copyvio concerns, hook is interesting. The first source is solidly cited inline in the article, but the second source is only cited for other information in the article. So you should either cite this newspaper source for the DYK, or change the citation in the article to cite the "Old heads" article for the "over 60 years earlier" sentence. Good stuff overall! (also for transparency this is my first time reviewing a DYK, hope I'm not doing anything disastrously wrong) BanjoZebra (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Reggie Brown (wide receiver, born 1970)
- ... that college football player Reggie Brown suffered an injury that causes "a lot of people [to] never even walk right again", but recovered in time for the next season and later made it to the NFL?
- Source: Alabama Journal (regarding injury) & Pro Football Reference (regarding NFL)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WUEC
BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: since this seems to be something of a medical claim, the hook should be attributing correctly (Brown paraphrasing his doctor), if it's run at all. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 10:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Radiosoul
- ... that Alfie Templeman's studio album Radiosoul mainly focuses on his shift from adolescence to early adulthood, as well as his move to London?
- Source: From Rolling Stone UK: "While debut album Mellow Moon was written entirely alone during the pandemic, work on Radiosoul began when Templeman was in the process of moving out of his parents’ house and to London with his partner. Album highlight 'Beckham' playfully details his struggles with London’s exhausting rental market, as he details all the neighbourhoods he tried to live in. [...] He ended up living in none of them, but has now set up a new life in the capital that feels as representative of his move into adulthood as his new album. [...] After the pandemic lifted for most people, Templeman’s lung condition meant he had to isolate further, missing out on more pivotal teenage years. 'Everyone was coming out of their shell, whereas I was waiting,' he recalls. 'Things are about to change, and it’ll all be really amazing, but I can’t think about it too much. It was the same case with the album.'
- ALT1: ... that Alfie Templeman described the style of his studio album Radiosoul as "incohesively cohesive"? Source: From Dork: "Radiosoul pinballs around as many genres as possible in eleven tracks without it feeling like you’ve got whiplash when the song changes. 'The whole idea of it was to essentially make a double album in a single album,' says Alfie of his motive this time. 'Just make as many different kinds of songs and piece it all together and make it sound somewhat cohesive. I always said it was incohesively cohesive, even though that makes no sense whatsoever. I had so many different genres in my head that I wanted to go to.'
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KUER-FM
Oltrepier (talk) 07:27, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment London is one of the things you aren't supposed to link. Removed lk. Johnbod (talk) 13:16, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Hermanus Johannes Lovink
- ... that the Dutch agriculturist Hermanus Johannes Lovink (pictured) used a suitcase gramophone during his lectures?
- Source: Poel, JMG van der (12 November 2013). "Lovink, Hermanus Johannes (1866-1938)" (in Dutch). Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands. Archived from the original on 8 June 2024. Retrieved 8 June 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Dutch agriculturist Hermanus Johannes Lovink (pictured) served concurrently as a member of the House of Representatives and as mayor of Alphen aan den Rijn? Source: Poel, JMG van der (12 November 2013). "Lovink, Hermanus Johannes (1866-1938)" (in Dutch). Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands. Archived from the original on 8 June 2024. Retrieved 8 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/I Am Human (film)
- Comment: Original is a bit tricky; ALT1 included in case it's too misleading.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 9[edit]
Samuel Herbert Maw
- ... that the architect Samuel Herbert Maw is also well-known for his pictorial maps of Canada (example pictured)?
- Source: "Maw was also the author of a masterpiece of Canadian cartography, a bird’s-eye view of Quebec City, begun in 1926 and completed in 1932, in which he accurately rendered every single building in the Old Town and surrounding area, complete with a hand-drawn cartouche and historical notes on the significance of the buildings shown. Published by the Alexander Litho Co. Ltd. of Toronto, this map, measuring 27” x 35”, was reproduced in thousands of printed copies sold to tourists and visitors to Quebec for nearly three decades. A copy of the map can be found in National Map Collection, NAC, Ottawa. The popularity of this map led to another commission in 1939 for the Royal Tour of Canada. Entitled "This is Canada", it consisted of a full colour folio of maps of all nine provinces, printed in a spiral coil edition by The Macmillan Pub. Co. of Canada, and drawn by hand by S.H. Maw. The original folio was presented to King George VI & Queen Elizabeth by the Prime Minister of Canada. Just three years later, in 1942, he prepared an equally impressive Map of Montreal for the Tercentenary Celebrations of that city. It was placed on public display in the concourse of Windsor Station for several months. Yet another commission for a map was given to Maw in 1944 by the City of Ottawa, and he prepared a historical pictorial map of the Capital, unveiled at the National Gallery in Ottawa in 1944. This original map was later mounted on the north wall in the foyer of the Convention Hall in the Chateau Laurier Hotel."[1]
- Reviewed:
WikiFouf (talk) 16:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
- Very interesting. The article is long enough, it's new enough. It seems to be well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free. The other criteria seem to be met, except as follows: First, how is the image PD in the United States? And second, basically, I just have a quibble. The source certainly indicates his works were well known, but was he? The proposed hook does not make that clear.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Wehwalt! Frankly, I know very little about licensing and have no idea how to figure out what the map's American licensing is. Is there a database to search through or something? Your other quibble is also fair, "well known" might be a stretch for the current context, if we're talking about him specifically. I do believe he was locally well known (or, at least, known) during his career, judging from the historical media coverage I've read. I found this obituary from the Ottawa Journal which I think shows he was notable in his field(s). So, maybe change "is" to "was", "well known" to "known", or both?--WikiFouf (talk) 16:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Notable has a meaning in wiki-talk, see WP:GNG for example. Maybe we could focus on the fact that his works had thousands of reproductions?
- As for the image, it was, under Canadian law at the time, protected for fifty years after death. Per this, however the copyright may have been extended per WP:URAA. This is not a field in which I am expert. Do you know if the maps were also published in the US at the same time?
References
- ^ "Maw, Samuel Herbert". Biographical Dictionary of Architects in Canada. Retrieved 9 June 2024.
Barry Burton
- ... that Barry Burton gained popularity for having awkward or cringe-inducing lines—like "That was too close! You were almost a Jill Sandwich!" and "It’s Forest. OH MY COD!”? Source: https://www.eurogamer.net/oh-my-cod-an-ode-to-resident-evils-barry-burton https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3311562/barry-burton-best-resident-evil-character/ https://screenrant.com/best-resident-evil-npc-barry-re1/
- ALT1: ... Barry Burton's clanky-inducing lines—like "You were almost a Jill Sandwich!" from the first Resident Evil game were popular enough to be referenced in following games?"
Source: [1]
🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 10:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ McDonell, Jess (January 28, 2013). "Gaming Meme History: Jill Sandwich". GameSpot. Archived from the original on April 11, 2013. Retrieved August 12, 2017.
Architects' Tombs
- ... that according to legend, the engineers who built the Walls of Jerusalem are buried near the Jaffa Gate after the Ottoman sultan killed them for excluding David's Tomb on Mount Zion from the walls?
- ALT1: ... that according to legend, two tombs near the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem are said to belong to the architects of the city walls, who were killed by the sultan for leaving David's Tomb outside the walls? Source: https://www.iaa-conservation.org.il/projects_item_eng.asp?subject_id=10&site_id=3&id=112
- Reviewed:
PeleYoetz (talk) 11:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
- I have begun the review process of this DYK, and the hook seems good and accurate, based on the source cited. The article is also new enough, having been created on 9 June 2024.
Article length and age are fine; no copyright violations or plagiarism could be found; reliable sources are used. Since, according to the sources cited, there are several suspected identifications for these graves, it is perhaps best to add in the lead paragraph: “Although disputed, these graves are attributed to the engineers of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, who, according to Jerusalem legend, built the city's wall.” The hook should also clarify this point. For example:
- ALT2 ... that according to one legend, two engineers who built the Walls of Jerusalem are buried near the Jaffa Gate after the Ottoman sultan killed them for excluding David's Tomb on Mount Zion from the walls?Davidbena (talk) 03:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @Davidbena:, it sounds good to me. Is there anything else needed from my side? PeleYoetz (talk) 09:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the first reference/source that you cite in the article, the tombs are also known as Engineers' Tomb. This alternate name should also be mentioned in the lead paragraph.Davidbena (talk) 22:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Davidbena Now done. PeleYoetz (talk) 09:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Album covers of Blue Note Records
- ... that some of the album covers of Blue Note Records feature illustrations by a then-unknown Andy Warhol?
- Source: Cook, Richard (2003). Blue Note Records: The Biography. Boston: Justin, Charles & Co. p. 129. "The artist in question, Andy Warhol, had already done a couple of Blue Note sleeves - Johnny Griffin's shirt-bedecked The Congregation..."Adams, Owen (10 August 2009). "Label of love: Blue Note". The Guardian. "Reid Miles's striking cover designs (a pre-famous Andy Warhol also designed a few)..."
- ALT1: ... that despite not being a fan of jazz, designer Reid Miles created hundreds of album covers for Blue Note Records, a jazz record label?
- Source: Cook, Richard (2003). Blue Note Records: The Biography. Boston: Justin, Charles & Co. p. 88. "Miles wasn't particularly interested in jazz, and professed to being much more of a classical music fan."L.A. Times writer (12 February 1993). "Reid Miles; Designed Album Covers, TV Ads". Los Angeles Times. "Miles established his New York reputation by creating about 400 album covers for Blue Note."Hinckley, David (15 December 2005). "Oozing cool: that Blue Note look". New York Daily News. p. 43. "...once Miles was hired, he did everything 500-plus LPs over the next 11 years."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Including two disagreeing sources for ALT1 because there seems to be no consensus on how many covers Miles designed, other that they are in the multiple hundreds. I am personally more drawn to ALT1 than I am the original hook, given that the original cannot be supplemented by free-use images. Feel free to alter the hooks as well.
Joeyquism (talk) 05:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Hi Joey! came here after finding this article from discord. Sources look good, with reliable sources and authors with good creds. Spotchecked a few of them (refer to Special:PermanentLink/1229691544), [3] [13], [33], [69] and found no issues with plagiarism or verifiability (although I would tone down with the quotations if you want to bring it to GA). No need for a QPQ. Wrt hookiness, I don't really vibe with both hooks - the second is wordy, and the first depends on whether people know Andy Warhol. Perhaps you can spin a hook from the third paragraph of the lead? PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 01:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi PSA - thank you for the review! I agree with your point that ALT0 requires prior knowledge, though I'm not sure that I agree ALT1 is wordy other than the usage of the word "jazz" twice. As a replacement, how about the following:
- ALT1a: ... that despite not being a jazz fan, designer Reid Miles created hundreds of album covers for Blue Note Records?
- Perhaps that's more concise? I also took your suggestion of spinning a hook from the third paragraph:
- ALT2: ... that the album covers of Blue Note Records have been considered to be the "look" of jazz?
- ALT2: ... that the album covers of Blue Note Records have been considered to be the "look" of jazz?
- ...or some other variation? Let me know what you think. For your point regarding quotations, I am assuming you mean the quotations in the reception section, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I'll get to reducing the quotation usage as soon as I can. Thanks again! joeyquism (talk) 02:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @PSA: Does the above address your concerns, as is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 15:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
H. J. Lovink Pumping Station
- ... that the H. J. Lovink Pumping Station (pictured), a National Monument of the Netherlands, is adorned by a terracotta tableau?
- Source: "Gemaal H.J. Lovink" [H.J. Lovink Pumping Station]. Rijksmonumentenregister (in Dutch). Ministry of Education, Culture and Science. Archived from the original on 10 December 2023. Retrieved 8 May 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the H. J. Lovink Pumping Station (pictured), a National Monument of the Netherlands, was used to reclaim the Flevopolder? Source: "Gemaal H.J. Lovink" [H.J. Lovink Pumping Station]. Rijksmonumentenregister (in Dutch). Ministry of Education, Culture and Science. Archived from the original on 10 December 2023. Retrieved 8 May 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sara Houcke
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
Walter W. White
... that in an alternate universe, Walter White (pictured) was "cooking" in the medical field instead?
- Source: https://search.canbarchives.ca/white-walter-w-colonel-1862-1952, or pretty much any source from the article given this is referring to him being a physician.
- Source: Citation 27 (https://www.proquest.com/docview/423258874/C5A27C638F0B4804PQ/4). Can additionally be verified as still being used through their website: https://chipmanhill.com/property/71-sydney-street/
- Source: Citation 27 (https://books.google.ca/books?id=EX8uAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA13#v=onepage&q&f=false).
- Reviewed: QPQ coming soon
B3251(talk) 05:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
- I understand the desire to make light of his name, but directly saying 'in an alternate universe' and inventing a quote is inappropriate. "The hook should include a definite fact" (WP:DYKHOOK), not an editorialization or humor qua humor. I think there are other things that are interesting here, anyway, where we can still play with the name without it. ... that WW was a Conservative? ... that before studying other sciences, WW studied botany? Or on the political side alone, I think him falling to third place in 1932 as a relatively long-standing incumbent could be interesting. Tastes vary of course... Urve (talk) 01:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Urve: I apologize that it seems inappropriate, I came up with that hook as an attempt to use his name as an opportunity to make a lighthearted pun since I figured that would probably be pretty interesting to readers. I appreciate the recommendations, but I'm currently unsure of what else could be a very interesting hook at the moment– just saying that he was Conservative for example wouldn't be an adequate 'DYK fact' because that's just stating that he was a politician in a major political party. Any other suggestions? B3251(talk) 20:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- By inappropriate I just mean not the best, not that it's offensive or anything. As far as things like the conservative idea, my vision is like your original hook, where we leave out the middle initial: ... that Walter White was a Conservative? I think this would be 'interesting' in that this is about someone totally different than expected. (Whether such hooks are actually good practice or not, I'm not convinced.) Otherwise, I think something like this would be interesting, depending on the sources (which I haven't read). ... that Walter W. White, running for a sixth mayoral term, came in third place? ... that at 28 years of age, Walter W. White was deemed too old to marry his future wife? Urve (talk) 02:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Urve: I see what you mean now. I made a couple of ALT hooks, if a reviewer/promoter doesn't want the middle name being omitted that's okay. Thanks, B3251(talk) 17:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- By inappropriate I just mean not the best, not that it's offensive or anything. As far as things like the conservative idea, my vision is like your original hook, where we leave out the middle initial: ... that Walter White was a Conservative? I think this would be 'interesting' in that this is about someone totally different than expected. (Whether such hooks are actually good practice or not, I'm not convinced.) Otherwise, I think something like this would be interesting, depending on the sources (which I haven't read). ... that Walter W. White, running for a sixth mayoral term, came in third place? ... that at 28 years of age, Walter W. White was deemed too old to marry his future wife? Urve (talk) 02:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Urve: I apologize that it seems inappropriate, I came up with that hook as an attempt to use his name as an opportunity to make a lighthearted pun since I figured that would probably be pretty interesting to readers. I appreciate the recommendations, but I'm currently unsure of what else could be a very interesting hook at the moment– just saying that he was Conservative for example wouldn't be an adequate 'DYK fact' because that's just stating that he was a politician in a major political party. Any other suggestions? B3251(talk) 20:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 10[edit]
Jopie Roosenburg-Goudriaan, Teun Roosenburg, Oost Castle
- ... that Jopie and Teun Roosenburg led an art colony at Oost Castle (pictured) that helped Jewish refugees escape the Nazi-occupied Netherlands to Belgium?
- Source: Laudy, Yvonne (30 November 1991). "De Gongevaarlijke 'Gekken' van Kasteel Oost" [The Harmless 'Madmen' of Oost Castle]. De Telegraaf (in Dutch). Amsterdam. p. 25.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Great Alaskan Lumberjack Show, Template:Did you know nominations/Nexz, Template:Did you know nominations/Erismatopterus
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
Texas Centennial half dollar
- ... that when sales slowed on the Texas Centennial half dollar, Senator Tom Connally suggested minting 15 separate versions every year?
- Source: Commemorative Coins of the United States, p. 269 https://archive.org/details/commemcoins1991bowe
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
- "the whole history of Texas and all its leading personages in a perfect hodgepodge", so true! Article is x5 expanded and long enough. It appears well-sourced, although I seemingly do not have access to many of the sources. QPQ done. As for plagiarism, none found so far. I do have access to one of the two sources used for the hook paragraph (second paragraph of Production and distribution). A couple of points due to this. Firstly, Senator Connally only raised five versions, it becomes 15 only because of nerds and mintmarks and the source does not state that Connally was aware of this (indeed the source is a second-hand account from Connally's secretary). The article also says that Senator Alva B. Adams opposed the bill, but this opposition is not explicit in the source (although Adams is clearly fully up on his coin knowledge). May work through some other paragraphs later, focused on this as it is the sole proposed hook.As a separate note regarding the mintage table, the way the Assay coins are positioned implies they are included in the net calculations, but they do not seem to be. Also unsure what common practice is in these articles at the moment, but if the coins were intended to be non-circulating this should be stated explicitly, especially in the modern era when there are actually five (mintmarked up to 10) commemorative circulating quarters each year. CMD (talk) 02:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Thank you so much for such a thorough review! I intend to bring this to GAN pretty soon, and you've already done half my work for me. I made some fixes, esp. to emphasize that it wasn't a circulating coin. Would adding an "inadvertently" between suggested and minting work for the hook? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the fixes. I'm really not in favor of trying to find a technical way to get Senator Connally on record for something he didn't say, and I don't think it's more hooky at any rate. Just "five separate versions to increase sales" conveys the intention of the hook. CMD (talk) 02:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's fair enough. So just this is a-ok? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the fixes. I'm really not in favor of trying to find a technical way to get Senator Connally on record for something he didn't say, and I don't think it's more hooky at any rate. Just "five separate versions to increase sales" conveys the intention of the hook. CMD (talk) 02:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Thank you so much for such a thorough review! I intend to bring this to GAN pretty soon, and you've already done half my work for me. I made some fixes, esp. to emphasize that it wasn't a circulating coin. Would adding an "inadvertently" between suggested and minting work for the hook? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: that when sales slowed on the Texas Centennial half dollar, Senator Tom Connally suggested minting 5 separate versions every year?
- I'm not sold on "every year", for similar reasons as above. Decided to spot-check the other uses of Bowers as I have access. Not sure what it is being used for in the second paragraph of Inception. Its use in the first sentence of Production and distribution supports part of the sentence, based on the presence of the second source I assume the rest comes from that, and the use checks out without found plagiarism for the rest of that paragraph. All other uses check out. CMD (talk) 03:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: Following up here, aiming to get a hook that won't get sent to ERRORS, which has been more stringent over the past couple of weeks. CMD (talk) 13:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sold on "every year", for similar reasons as above. Decided to spot-check the other uses of Bowers as I have access. Not sure what it is being used for in the second paragraph of Inception. Its use in the first sentence of Production and distribution supports part of the sentence, based on the presence of the second source I assume the rest comes from that, and the use checks out without found plagiarism for the rest of that paragraph. All other uses check out. CMD (talk) 03:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: that when sales slowed on the Texas Centennial half dollar, Senator Tom Connally suggested minting 5 separate versions every year?
Articles created/expanded on June 11[edit]
Khushalii Kumar
- ... that during the shooting of the film Starfish, Khushalii Kumar had to jump into the freezing cold water while she was in a dress?
- Reviewed:
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 08:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: Though, the article was created on 8 June, but Wikipedia clearly states that "Articles that have been re-created from deletion may be considered new. The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request." 11 is OK. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 09:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Snow Bowl (1985)
- ... that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers players wore white uniforms during a snowy NFL game, which made them extremely difficult for their quarterback to see?
- Source: USAToday.com
- Reviewed: Dreamtime (climb)
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC).
Shachar Sagiv
- ... that Shachar Sagiv, who is slated to represent Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics in the triathlon, is a brother of Ran Sagiv and a son of Shemi Sagiv, both of whom are former Olympians?
- Reviewed: Tobie Goedewaagen
- Comment: Nominated by Schwede66 on behalf of an IP editor, who will also provide the QPQ.
Schwede66 03:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC).
- Although the hook is shorter than 200 characters (at 185 characters), it does seem pretty long and a bit hard to read. I understand it might be difficult to compress the hook into a more concise one, but if that's possible I would suggest doing so anyway. Otherwise, another concern I have is that it's not exactly that uncommon for Olympic athletes to be relatives of other Olympians, and in any case the hook seems more to do with Sagiv's family than he himself. I'd like to see more suggestions that are more about Sagiv himself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a well-known athletics hook hater, but this one is actually unusual and interesting, IMO. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, it’s indeed rare to have two Olympians who are brothers and who also have a father who is an Olympian. And there is ample coverage of this fact in RSs in regard to him and his family precisely because it is notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C1F0:2A4D:7D90:217B (talk) 08:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- To shorten the hook even further than 185 characters, though I think 185 is appropriately concise, one might consider changing the lead-in of the hook to "that triathlete Shachar Sagiv, who will represent Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics ..." That would bring the character count down 11, to a tidy 174, 26 characters short of the limit.
- In addition, we can bold Ran Sagiv and make the hook about his 5x expansion as well.2603:7000:2101:AA00:A407:4587:FBA9:6E1B (talk) 04:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that triathlete Shachar Sagiv, who will represent Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics in the triathlon, is a brother of Ran Sagiv and a son of Shemi Sagiv, both of whom are former Olympians?
- You'd have to provide another QPQ, but if you do, we can certainly run this as a double hook. Schwede66 00:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Assuming that this will be good to go at some point, I suggest that this be run on 30 July. See Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table. Schwede66 01:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 looks good. I will provide another QPQ. Also, run on 30 July makes good sense. Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D4A:2D60:FB7D:680A (talk) 20:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 12[edit]
How to Be Perfect
- ... that in his book How to Be Perfect, Michael Schur sought to "wade into some deeply confusing and painful applications of moral philosophy ... But in a fun way"?
- Source: "...Schur makes good on his promise to 'wade into some deeply confusing and painful applications of moral philosophy, stretching and straining and chewing on really tough questions that plague us in our daily lives, that cause us anxiety and anguish and often lead to loud arguments with our closest friends and family. But in a fun way!'" Kirkus Reviews
- Source: "Down to the musical cues and audio cast (which includes the actors Ted Danson, Kristen Bell, Manny Jacinto, and Jameela Jamil), How to Be Perfect could be considered a companion piece to the author's recent hit, The Good Place." Modak, Sebastian. The New York Times Book Review. March 13, 2022. pg 9.
DrOrinScrivello (talk) 13:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
Team Disney Orlando
- ... that the Team Disney Orlando building in Florida features a 120 foot (37 m) sundial, the world's largest at the time of its construction?
- Source: “The huge, open drum in the middle of the building turns out to be not just an ornamental tower but a vast sundial—Disney officials claim it is the world’s largest—that functions as both a meditative central court and a way of observing the passage of time” [25]
- ALT1: ... that the Team Disney Orlando building in Florida features a 120 foot (37 m) sundial, the largest in North America? Source: "This experience with the largest sundial in North and South America led Dr. McCluney to a new interest in sundial design and a search for other sundial designers and makers. " [26]
- Reviewed:
–DMartin 02:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Dmartin969: I will do a full review later. However, I noticed that neither of these facts (that the sundial was allegedly the world's largest, and that the sundial is the largest in North America) is in the article. In addition, the sources say something slightly different for both of these: for the original hook, it's that Disney claims that the sundial is the world's largest, and for ALT1, it's that the sundial is the largest in the Americas (not just North America). Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Setsuyaku Rock
- ... that the live-action drama adaptation of the Japanese manga Setsuyaku Rock was reimagined as a buddy comedy?
- ALT1: ... that the live-action drama adaptation of the Japanese manga Setsuyaku Rock was rebroadcast with new scenes depicting the events of the series as a flashback? Source: https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2164885/full/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gedling Town F.C.
lullabying (talk) 17:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
J. D. Arteaga
- ... that J. D. Arteaga, best friend of Alex Rodriguez, did not foresee Rodriguez's talent?
- ALT1: ... that J. D. Arteaga is friends with both a prolific New York Yankee and Boston Red Sock?
- Reviewed:
TarheelBornBred (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
Nederlandsche Kultuurkamer
- ... that, of the three presidents of the Chamber of Dutch Culture, two were arrested and one was assassinated? Source: Goedewaagen arrested: "Dr. T. (Tobie) Goedewaagen" (in Dutch). Parlementair Documentatie Centrum. Archived from the original on 10 January 2023. Retrieved 11 June 2024.; Reydon assassinated: "Mr. H. Reydon Overleden" [Mr. H. Reydon Dies]. Nieuwsblad van het Noorden (in Dutch). Groningen. 25 August 1943. p. 1.; De Ranitz arrested: "Jhr.Mr. S.M.S. de Ranitz" (in Dutch). Parlementair Documentatie Centrum. Archived from the original on 27 January 2022. Retrieved 11 June 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Nazi regime in the Netherlands established a cultural organization that counted more than 42,000 members, from prominent artists to organ grinders? Source: 42,000 members: "Kultuurkamer – Kunst en Cultuur in de Tweede Wereldoorlog" [The Kultuurkamer – Art and Culture in the Second World War]. Historiek (in Dutch). 6 October 2022. (also in Lewin, without a date); Prominent artists to organ grinders: Lewin, Lisette (1983). Het Clandestiene Boek 1940–1945 [The Clandestine Books, 1940–1945]. Van Gennep. p. 76. ISBN 9789060125502.
- ALT2: ... that the poet Adriaan Roland Holst wrote that he would greatly appreciate the disapproval of the Chamber of Dutch Culture? Source: "Kultuurkamer – Kunst en Cultuur in de Tweede Wereldoorlog" [The Kultuurkamer – Art and Culture in the Second World War]. Historiek (in Dutch). 6 October 2022.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 13[edit]
1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria
- ... that during the 1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria some troops refused orders to fire upon the protesters?
- Source: Bell, John D. (2019). Peasants in Power: Alexander Stamboliski and the Bulgarian Agrarian National Union, 1899-1923. Princeton University Press. ISBN 978-0-691-65544-4, p. 45: "By dawn of the following day, the balance of forces had so shifted that the peasants decided to challenge the troops by marching to Ruse. When they approached the troops the commander gave the order to open fire. The soldiers, however, refused to shoot into the peasants and fired two volleys into the air. The commander himself drew his revolver and fired at the peasants, who rushed at him and made him prisoner. Some of the soldiers allowed their weapons to be taken and the rest retreated."
- Source 2: Hristov, Hristo (1962). Селските вълнения и бунтове 1899–1900 [Peasant Disturbances and Rebellions 1899–1900] (in Bulgarian). Izdatelstvo na Natsionalnia Savet na Otechestvenia Front: "Постигането на първите успехи повдигна духа на селяните и положението на стражарите и войниците стана критично. За да сломи нападателния дух на селяните, командирът на войсковия отред даде заповед за стрелба. Но войниците отказаха да стрелят в своите бащи и братя. Не беше изпълнена също така и заповедта „На нож!“. Войската се колебаеше."
- Translation from Bulgarian: "The achievement of the first successes raised the spirits of the villagers and the situation of the guards and soldiers became critical. To break the offensive spirit of the villagers, the commander of the military detachment gave the order to shoot. But the soldiers refused to shoot their fathers and brothers. The order "On a knife!" was also not carried out. The army hesitated."
Anonimu (talk) 14:11, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
Ghost in the Machine (song)
- ... that one critic interpreted a SZA song as being about her fears about the growing influence of AI in the music industry?
- Source: American Songwriter: " For most of the track, SZA smoothly croons about the disheartening taste in the music industry. As she notices the growing influence of artificial intelligence on the pop landscape, evident in the Robot got future, I don't lyric, she looks to her lover to distract her from her worrisome reality."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WRLH (New Hampshire)
- Comment: Open to hook suggestions.
PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 01:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
- @PSA and Dylan620: Please provide a QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 15:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: D'oh! Apologies for the oversight and thank you for catching that – I've added an older review of mine as a QPQ. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 16:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Shirt (song)
- ... that fans on TikTok were behind the name choice for one of SZA's singles?
- Source: American Songwriter: "Surfacing in 2020 on Instagram, the song gained traction on TikTok and became a viral soundbite. It soundtracked a popular dance craze on the platform and fans gave the tune its name."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Album covers of Blue Note Records
- Comment: Open to alternative hook suggestions.
PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 01:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
Narragansett Pier Railroad
- ... that owners of the Narragansett Pier Railroad included a family of industrialists, a dentist, a systems analyst, a lumberyard, and the founder of Textron? Source: A Short Haul to the Bay: A History of the Narragansett Pier Railroad by James N. J. Henwood. Dentist supported by [27] Bangor Daily News, December 28, 1979, page 2.
Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
Mindustry
- ... that the real-time strategy, tower defense and factory management game Mindustry is freely licensed under the GPLv3?
- Source: From article. For license see license from repo; for rest, see Bolding, Jonathan (December 5, 2020). "The factory-building tower defense of Mindustry gets a huge 6.0 update". PC Gamer. Archived from the original on April 2, 2023. Retrieved June 10, 2023.
jp×g🗯️ 01:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
Yevhen Klopotenko
- ... that Yevhen Klopotenko (pictured) fought a "war for borscht"?
- Source: [28] “I don’t really like to call it a war for borscht, but in fact that’s what it is,” Klopotenko told AFP in 2020. [...] “Victory in the borscht war is ours,” Ukraine’s culture minister, Oleksandr Tkachenko, said on Telegram.
- ALT1: ... that Yevhen Klopotenko (pictured) has been called "Ukraine's Jamie Oliver"? Source: [29] People like to call him Ukraine’s Jamie Oliver.
- ALT2: ... that Yevhen Klopotenko (pictured) once presented Ukraine's cultural ministry with five liters of borscht? Source: [30] Earlier this month, Klopotenko and his team presented the Ukrainian Culture Ministry’s expert commission with their results, which included five liters of the soup.
- Reviewed: [[]]
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 01:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
Harriette Cooke
- ... that Cornell College professor Harriette Cooke started the Cornell’s Ladies Battalion in 1889, and the women held drills in skirted uniforms while using wooden wands in the place of rifles?
- Source: Rexroat, Dee Ann (February 17, 2021). "Pioneering women: The top moments in women's history at Cornell College". Cornell College News Center. Retrieved June 13, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of historic places in Gore District
- Comment: The DYK check is wrong when it says that the article has not been expanded at least 5x. It was 810 characters of prose prior to expansion, and it is now 4,059 characters of prose. 810 times 5 is 4,050.
SL93 (talk) 09:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
- If the hook must be independent of the subject, I have -
- ALT1 ... that Cornell College professor Harriette Cooke was also a deaconess? SL93 (talk) 01:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 14[edit]
Ryan Warsofsky
- ... that ice hockey coach Ryan Warsofsky was the youngest active head coach in the ECHL, then was the youngest in the AHL, and now is the youngest in the NHL?
- Source: WCSC ("fifth youngest coach in ECHL history. He is currently the youngest active coach in the league."); The Charlotte Observer ("Warsofsky, 31, will be the youngest current head coach in the AHL"); ESPN ("Warsofsky, who at 36 is now the youngest coach in the NHL")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Please supply a QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Alyssa Mendoza
- ... that boxer Alyssa Mendoza won a Golden Gloves tournament on her birthday?
- Source: USA Boxing ("It wasn’t until Golden Gloves in 2022 that she realized her skill and that the Olympics was a possibility. She fought five times in six days and won the event but also won best female boxer of the tournament. 'I fought on my birthday during the Golden Gloves, and I remember winning and going straight to my room and praying.' A passionate Mendoza stated. 'I felt like fighting on my birthday was a sign to me that I was born to do this and to be here in the spot I am today.'"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of Green Bay Packers Associated Press All-Pro selections
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment – I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 11:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Review – The article is new enough (created/moved to mainspace on 14 June 2024), long enough (1600+ characters of prose), has no copyright issues (using Earwig tool and two spot checks), and is presentable (based on a readthrough). The hook is cited, but from the source, I cannot make out whether this Golden Gloves was a single-day tournament that was held on her birthday or that it was a multiple-day tournament and that she merely won a single fight on her birthday. If it is the former, the hook is interesting enough, but if it is the latter, the hook is not interesting enough in my opinion. Could this be clarified with a source or can you suggest an alternative hook? The QPQ is not yet done. – Editør (talk) 11:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Kimboo
- ... that Kimboo—created by an Ivorian First Lady—was the first animated series to both feature a main character of native African descent and air on the U.S. BET network?
- Source: "Ebony Update: Marie-Thérèse Houphouët-Boigny, First Lady of the Ivory Coast". Ebony. Vol. XLV, no. 8. June 1990. p. 58. Archived from the original on 2024-06-15. Retrieved 2024-06-19 – via Google Books. / Erickson, Hal (2005). "Kimboo". Television Cartoon Shows: An Illustrated Encyclopedia, 1949 through 2003. McFarland. pp. 475–476. ISBN 0-7864-2099-5.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/L'Aube rouge (novel)
- Comment: Announced for my old article sandbox back in mid-December 2010, but never acted upon till the time I transitioned to my brand-new AFC queue. By the way, here's hoping WP can extend its coverage on African-produced animation in the years ahead. Stay tuned as I prepare for another DYK submission in a couple of days. Take care!
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 09:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
- Formatting breaks MOS:SEAOFBLUE guideline, should probably just be merged into the "first lady" pipe. Orchastrattor (talk) 21:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Parengyodontium album
- ... that Parengyodontium album is only one of four known species of marine fungi that is capable of degrading plastics? Source: https://www.nioz.nl/en/news/fungus-breaks-down-ocean-plastic
- ALT1: ... that the marine fungal species Parengyodontium album only breaks down polyethylene plastics that has been exposed to UV light?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Recently created. I think the refs and the content needs a quick double check for verifiability and copyvio. However, I think it should be ok.
Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 03:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
Birthday of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
- ... that the Bangladesh Krishak Sramik Awami League ordered a 55-pound (25 kg) cake on Bangladeshi president Sheikh Mujibur's 55th birthday?
- ALT1: ... that the birthday of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was declared a public holiday in Bangladesh in 1972 to commemorate a visit from Indian prime minister Indira Gandhi? Source: https://www.kalbela.com/ajkerpatrika/joto-mot-toto-path/73707
- ALT2: ... that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, founder and first president of Bangladesh, had to experience his birthday in jail eight times? Source: https://www.banglatribune.com/national/840278/%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%A8-%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%9F%E0%A6%A4%E0%A7%8B-%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%99%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A7%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%A6%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A8
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent
- Comment: If you can please do copy edit for the article. I already requested in WP:GOCE but they take longer time to respond.
Mehedi Abedin (talk) 17:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I have done some copyediting of the hooks. I will also give the article a basic copyedit. Therefore, I will leave the reviewing to someone else. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 15[edit]
Mohan Charan Majhi, 2024 Odisha Legislative Assembly election
- ... that Mohan Charan Majhi of Bharatiya Janata Party formed the Odisha state government by winning the elections ending the 24-year long Biju Janata Dal rule?
- Source: CNBC TV 18, The Statesman
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Way Less Sad and Template:Did you know nominations/Gloria Dickie
§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 18:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
Braver Angels
- ... that a co-founder of Braver Angels designed their Red/Blue political depolarization workshops based on couples therapy?
- Source: Doherty, William J., and Tai J. Mendenhall. "Braver Angels: Counteracting political polarization." In W. J. Doherty & T. J. Mendenhall, Becoming a citizen therapist: Integrating community problem-solving into your work as a healer (pp. 93–111). American Psychological Association. https://doi-org.proxy.lib.miamioh.edu/10.1037/0000378-008
- ALT1: ... that conservative and liberal participants in Braver Angels Red/Blue depolarization workshops understand each other better if they share political views with their own group first? Source: Oliver-Blackburn, Bailey M., and April Chatham-Carpenter. "‘But I don’t know if I want to talk to you’: strategies to foster conversational receptiveness across the United States’ political divide." Journal of Applied Communication Research 51, no. 1 (2023): 55-71.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: June 27-29 is their national convention, so that'd be great timing for a DYK. I'm part of a WikiEdu course on 2024 US elections and I will continue improving this article over the coming week(s). I'd especially welcome advice on the ordering and naming of sections. I'm in touch with the organization and hope to get some images for Wiki Commons and the article.
ProfGray (talk) 00:35, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 16[edit]
YMCA Building (San Diego)
- ... that the San Diego YMCA served over 125 million military personnel?
- Source: KFMB-TV and the The Daily Telegraph. Full citations in article.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first DYK nomination; any pointers on how to do better are always welcome!
RevelationDirect (talk) 21:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- @RevelationDirect: I will review this in a couple hours (currently busy with other things in real life), if no one else does (but I will need to request someone else to "check my work" because I am a new DYK reviewer. GoldRomean (talk) 15:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: 125 million (hook) or 125 (article)? Needs to be fixed, I think. GoldRomean (talk) 15:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
The Servile State
- ... that in The Servile State, Hilaire Belloc (pictured) criticized socialism for being too similar to capitalism?
- Source: "The [socialist] experiment is thoroughly suited [...] to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread." p. 78 NB that Belloc earlier defines socialism and collectivism as the same thing (p. 7) which is why the source calls it collectivism.
- ALT1: ... that in The Servile State, Hilaire Belloc (pictured) traced the history of capitalism to the Protestant Reformation instead of the Industrial Revolution? Source: For the Reformation claim, see page 25; for the Industrial Revolution being incorrect see pp. 41–42
- ALT2: ... that although it was written in 1912, George Orwell once described The Servile State as "foretell[ing] with remarkable insight" events that occurred from the 1930s onward? Source: "The Servile State is written in a tiresome style, and the remedy it suggests (a return to small-scale peasant ownership) is for many reasons impossible: still, it does foretell with remarkable insight the kind of things that have been happening from about 1930 onwards."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oen Boen Ing
- Comment: Open to other hooks; this page has plenty of DYK opportunities.
ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
AppleToo
- ... that after women at Apple Inc. found a 6% gender wage gap and spoke out against sexual harassment and discrimination in #AppleToo, a class action lawsuit was filed in June 2024?
- Reviewed: NA (IP address hasn't nominated before)
- Comment: Creating this template on behalf of 74.89.25.100 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: The article does not seem neutral, considering the biased words rarely use quotations, the article also does not seem plagiarism free, with 10 percent of plagiarism, TheNuggeteer (talk) 03:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- TheNuggeteer a comprehensive DYK review would give more specific feedback. Which words are biased or WP:WEASEL? Can you give examples so that the nominator can make the relevant improvements? And regarding copyright violation, a percentage doesn't say much. Checking earwig, I checked several examples and determined them to be false matches, or appropriately used, e.g an attributed quote. If you have specific copyright violations in mind, please explicitly mention which ones. The tooling and percentages are meant to guide the search but are not a substitute for in-depth analysis. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 10:47, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shushugah According to WP:CONTENTIOUS "racist" and "sexist" (and probably others: racial discrimination, ableism, assault) are words to watch, considering they are not confirmed (regarding the ongoing 2024 lawsuit). I recommend (also according to WP:ALLEGED) to add alleged and to put quotes beside the alleged words. TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, regarding the copyright, I've changed the checklist from blank to yes. Considering the mistake. TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Added alleged to spots where it was missing and reworded lawsuit to also use alleged. 24.169.15.170 (talk) 06:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Pharos (crater)
- ... that Pharos, the largest impact crater on Neptune's moon Proteus, is more than half the diameter of the moon itself? Source: https://doi.org/10.1016/S0019-1035(03)00002-2
––FormalDude (talk) 05:59, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
is more than half the diameter of the moon itself?
is somewhat confusing since you're talking about a moon. Maybe try: "is more than half the diameter of the Earth's moon?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7081:1740:67:5967:2CA0:DE70:8F88 (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)- Pretty sure "the moon itself" refers to Proteus (it's not "the Moon itself"). Anyway, I'll review this. TompaDompa (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
I think that's the point. The crater certainly cannot be larger than the body it is on.Ignore me, I missed the word half.173.207.93.240 (talk) 23:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty sure "the moon itself" refers to Proteus (it's not "the Moon itself"). Anyway, I'll review this. TompaDompa (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article promoted to GA (though the nomination template says "created") on 7 June, and is well beyond the required minimum length. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. There are no obvious neutrality issues. Earwig reveals no copyvio, and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. The hook is interesting, but see below about the sourcing. I don't think the meaning of "the moon itself" is unclear, but it could optionally be replaced with "Proteus itself" if others feel differently. There is no image in the nomination, but File:Proteus_(Voyager_2).jpg could be used as it is public domain (by NASA), used in the article, and clear (enough) at the resolution used on the WP:Main page. QPQ has been done. Some comments about the content:
- I have, to the best of my ability, added inline page numbers for the relatively lengthy sources. Please check if I got it right.
a diameter of around 250 km (160 mi) in diameter
– redundant.- Fixed -Ark
a small moon orbiting unusually close to Proteus
– should probably clarify that it orbits Neptune unusually close to Proteus, as opposed to orbiting Proteus at an unusually close distance.- Rephrased as
... a small moon whose orbit is unusually close to Proteus's.
-Ark
- Rephrased as
Pharos was first discovered in the Voyager 2 spacecraft's flyby of Neptune and its system of moons in 1989, being one of the first identifiable features on Proteus.
– going by the source, Proteus itself seems to have been discovered at this time too, no? That should probably be mentioned in some way.- Good catch! Briefly mentioned Proteus's discovery just ~2 months prior per its discovery announcement in an IAU circular. -Ark
The impact basin was provisionally named in a 1992 paper by Steven K. Croft after the island of Pharos
– I don't find this in the cited source? It says thatthe largest basin-like structure on Proteus has been provisionally named Pharos (Croft, 1992)
, but doesn't seem to mention anything about the etymology.- Etymology attributed to the USGS/GPN source at the end of paragraph, duplicated to end of sentence as well. -Ark
With a calculated diameter of 255 ± 12 km (158.4 ± 7.5 mi), Pharos is by far the largest known impact structure on Proteus.
– I don't find this in the cited source?- Sloppy attribution on my part, the latter portion should be attributed to Stooke 1994 p. 47
The largest crater or basin, Pharos (Figure 9), is really one of the facets already described...
. I realized I'd omitted apparently varying estimated diameters between Stooke 1994 and Croft 1992, so I've changed it toWith a diameter between 230 and 267 kilometres...
with an explanatory efn. -Ark
- Sloppy attribution on my part, the latter portion should be attributed to Stooke 1994 p. 47
this makes Pharos over half the size of the satellite itself
– I don't find this in the cited source, either. On the one hand, this size comparison is a WP:Routine calculation. On the other however, this comparison really needs to come explicitly from the sources if it is to be used for the hook.- Attributed to Croft 1992 p. 410 table on crater diameter to object radius ratio; it gives a D/R ratio of 1.22 for Pharos. -Ark
- Right, but do any of the sources point this out explicitly? It's verifiable from the sources, which is fine for the article as such, but if we are to use it for a DYK hook we need to be a bit stricter. TompaDompa (talk) 19:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify, I understand what you're getting at: a crater diameter to object radius ratio above 1 is equivalent to the crater being more than half the size of the object. Which is of course true, but (to my eye, at least) not the kind of sourcing we should base DYK hooks on. If this remains the sole point of contention when we're done with the rest, I suggest we request a second opinion on this specific issue. TompaDompa (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- In this case, I'll refer to DYK nominator FormalDude on whether or not they wish to request a second opinion. -Ark
- To clarify, I understand what you're getting at: a crater diameter to object radius ratio above 1 is equivalent to the crater being more than half the size of the object. Which is of course true, but (to my eye, at least) not the kind of sourcing we should base DYK hooks on. If this remains the sole point of contention when we're done with the rest, I suggest we request a second opinion on this specific issue. TompaDompa (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Right, but do any of the sources point this out explicitly? It's verifiable from the sources, which is fine for the article as such, but if we are to use it for a DYK hook we need to be a bit stricter. TompaDompa (talk) 19:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Attributed to Croft 1992 p. 410 table on crater diameter to object radius ratio; it gives a D/R ratio of 1.22 for Pharos. -Ark
Pharos is a relatively degraded crater [...] bringing Pharos's total diameter to between 500 and 550 km (310 and 340 mi).
– I have been unable to access the cited page (694) of one of the two sources cited here. Roughly the second half (fromA series of depressions
to the end of the paragraph) appears to come from the source I am able to access, suggesting that the rest (up toa peak-ring impact basin.
) is from the other one. Could you provide page 694 from Neptune and Triton for verification?- Should include material from p. 693, this is now fixed. The particular excerpt is
The most remarkable aspects of this impact basin are the roughly concentric structures of indeterminable morphology which occur at radii of up to 250 krn from the center (Fig. 5). Although these structures have been interpreted variously by different workers 694 P. C. THOMAS ET AL. (compare Croft 1992; Smith et al. 1989), there is little question that a series of approximately concentric markings is present
. Also from the other source:Several depressions surround Pharos, particularly...
-Ark- I don't see how that verifies
Pharos is a relatively degraded crater, bound by an outer incomplete scarp interrupted by subsequent impacts. The floor of Pharos appears to be domed, but nevertheless lacks a clear central peak that characterizes central-peak impact craters. However, there may be a peak-ring structure with a diameter approximately half that of Pharos's outer rim.
? TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)- Largely from p. 694 of Neptune and Triton:
Based on the shape model and on shadowing relations, topography within the large impact depression extends over at least 10 km. There is no evidence of a central peak, but there are suggestions of a peak-ring of a diameter about 1/2 that of the outer walls.
and from Fig. 10 of Stooke 1994, with the caption using "rim segments" to outline Pharos. -Ark- Alright, this seems to be at the point where I will simply have to WP:Assume good faith. TompaDompa (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Largely from p. 694 of Neptune and Triton:
- I don't see how that verifies
- Should include material from p. 693, this is now fixed. The particular excerpt is
bringing Pharos's total diameter to between 500 and 550 km (310 and 340 mi).
– that would be larger than the diameter of Proteus itself (a point also made by the cited source). Further explanation seems warranted.- Mentioned, and additionally clarified that this suggestion is unconfirmed. -Ark
a cryovolcanic origin is unlikely
– the source does not specify cryovolcanic, it says volcanic.- Proteus is an icy body (per Proteus: Geology, Shape, and Catastrophic Destruction:
Thus Proteus is a transitional object in the irregular-spherical shape spectrum for icy satellites...
), therefore any volcanic activity automatically falls under cryovolcanism. However, since it's not explained in the source, an efn or a change to the more general "geological activity" may be warranted. Which option would be more preferable? -Ark- Well, the source says
The description of this as a dome does not imply a volcanic origin. Volcanism would not be expected on an object the size of Proteus, particularly since its non-spherical shape suggests it has never experienced significant heating.
Negating "geological activity" would be making a stronger statement than the source does inasmuch as it would rule out things the source does not explicitly (not that I would expect anybody to suggest that it's the result of plate tectonics, but still). TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)- Well, alternatively other sources utilize the term "cryovolcanism" instead of simply "volcanism", and make no mention of silicate volcanism, incl. Croft 1992:
Neither probable cryovolcanic structures such as the coronae on Miranda nor smooth areas suggestive of cryovolcanic resurfacing are discernable on Proteus.
Would this be sufficient for an efn? -Ark- This is a bit outside of my wheelhouse, but that sounds like synthesis to me. TompaDompa (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, changed to volcanism to be safe. -Ark
- This is a bit outside of my wheelhouse, but that sounds like synthesis to me. TompaDompa (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, alternatively other sources utilize the term "cryovolcanism" instead of simply "volcanism", and make no mention of silicate volcanism, incl. Croft 1992:
- Well, the source says
- Proteus is an icy body (per Proteus: Geology, Shape, and Catastrophic Destruction:
As the valley appears to extend beyond the terminator in Voyager 2 imagery, it likely is longer.
– this is a much stronger statement than the cited source makes (It may extend further north along the terminator.
).- Changed to
As the valley appears to extend along the terminator in Voyager 2 imagery, it may continue further north.
-Ark
- Changed to
As violent impacts were more common early in the Solar System's history, Pharos is likely several billion years old.
– this is not what the cited source says. It saysbecause the impactor flux was higher early in the solar system's history, Hippocamp is most likely at least a few Gy old.
, which has here apparently been combined with the source'sWe hypothesize that a large impact, perhaps the Pharos event itself, released debris from Proteus into orbit around Neptune. Some of this debris settled into a stable orbit perhaps 1,000–2,000 km (a few Hill radii) interior to Proteus, and accreted into Hippocamp.
by way of WP:Improper editorial synthesis to generate the statement in the article.- Addressed; moved into the "Effects on other Neptunian moons" subsection. -Ark
Nevertheless, that Pharos's structure is relatively well-preserved
– this seems to contradict the earlierPharos is a relatively degraded crater
.- Addressed, additionally mentioning the point about resurfacing from the source
Proteus was brought near the point of significant disturbance of its preexisting surface.
-Ark
- Addressed, additionally mentioning the point about resurfacing from the source
A system of possible tectonic faults and fractures both concentric and radially oriented to Pharos
– maybe I'm missing something, but this seems to seriously overstate the confidence either cited source places in there being real (as opposed to illusory/artefactual) linear structures radial to Pharos. They speak a fair deal about concentric structures, on the other hand.- Addressed, attributing caution to Croft 1992 p. 407 -Ark
Due to Triton's retrograde—or backwards—orbital motion, fragments would impact at velocities of roughly 7.5 km/s (17,000 mph) relative to Triton
– the cited source does not say that this is the reason the impact velocity would be of this magnitude.- Addressed. -Ark
Not a DYK requirement, but WP:NOTSEEALSO suggests avoiding repeating links from the body in the "See also" section.- Removed Hippocamp from the See also section. -Ark
Ping DYK nominator FormalDude, GA nominator ArkHyena, and GA reviewer Cocobb8. TompaDompa (talk) 00:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, TompaDompa! I'm going to give some time for ArkHyena and Cocobb8 to respond first. If these issues aren't resolved in a few days, I'll take a crack at it myself. ––FormalDude (talk) 10:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping TompaDompa! I think that the hook is interesting indeed, but I personally thing it should be "Proteus" itself instead of "the moon", so as to not have confusion with Earth's satellite. I agree with the comments for improvements you listed above! Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 13:38, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, I appreciate all the feedback! I've addressed a couple minor points. Unfortunately, I will be flying out later today, so I myself won't be able to do much more until Tuesday (UTC-7:00). Apologies if this delay causes any issues. ArkHyena (talk) 18:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- TompaDompa, most major points above should be addressed now (with two awaiting reply) :) Again, apologies for the delay, it's been a busy week for me. ArkHyena (talk) 00:32, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 17[edit]
Healie
- ... that the character Healie's popularity with players lead to the introduction of monster recruitment in Dragon Quest V, a mechanic that inspired Dragon Quest Monsters?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: It's a little outside the seven days, but my PC was in the middle of being transferred. I considered an ALT, but I felt that any possible ALT would not be as strong as noting the influence of Healie on the direction of the series.
Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- The current hook cannot be used as it is 210 characters long, and hooks should only be a maximum of 200 characters and ideally shorter than that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:15, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've reduced it down to 200. Is this acceptable? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:48, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Valley Falls train collision
- ... that the Valley Falls train collision in 1853 was one of the earliest train wrecks ever photographed? Source: Reed, Robert (1968). Train Wrecks: A Pictorial History of Accidents on the Main Line. Seattle: Superior Pub. Co. pp. 20–21. Also verified by Heppner, Frank H. (2012). Railroads of Rhode Island: shaping the Ocean State's railways. Charleston, South Carolina: History Press. p. 78
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Joel Ross (vibraphonist)
- Comment: Due to the recent controversy over "first" or "earliest" hooks, I have adopted the wording "one of the earliest".
Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article was promoted to GA status on time and I did not find any close paraphrasing. QPQ has been done. Since I can't access either source for the hook I'd like to at least see a quote or excerpt that discusses the hook. As for the hook itself, while it meets WP:DYKINT, the footnote supporting it comes at the end of the paragraph where the sentence is rather than the end of the sentence itself. In addition, the hook and the article do not match: the hook says "one of the earliest" but the article outright says "believed to be the first." I understand this is because of the recent issues with "first" hooks, but as it stands, the article cannot run unless that is resolved first. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have access to Train Wrecks right now as I'm in the middle of a move. Heppner says "This was the first train wreck ever to be photographed and printed in a newspaper". I have added an inline cite at the end of the sentence. This is kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation - if we try and run the hook as stated in the sources and article, it will almost certainly be challenged. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Given the circumstances of the nomination I'm pinging some of the commentors in the recent "first" hooks discussion such as @RoySmith, SL93, and Schwede66: for advice. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- My usual litmus test for "first" hooks is whether there's a finite set of things, making it possible to definitively order them and see which was first. For example, we can be pretty sure George Washington was indeed the first president of the United States; even the most skeptical of us should be willing to accept that there wasn't one before him that we just somehow haven't found yet in a google search. In this case, photography had only existed for about 20 years when this crash happened. The window of when an earlier photo might have been taken is thus limited, so at least this seems likely to be true. On general principles, however, I think we should say "believed to be" or something like that. FWIW, I found mention of this in the George Eastman House 2008 Annual Report which says "[Train wreck on the Providence Worcester Railroad near to Pawtucket], August 12, 1853. Attributed to L. Wright. Daguerreotype. so there may be some uncertainty about the photographer's identity. RoySmith (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't follow the last point. Both the link and the source I use in the article attribute the photograph to L. Wright. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I generally interpret the phrase "attributed to" to indicate a degree of uncertainty. Thus Read my lips: no new taxes says,
"Read my lips: no new taxes" is a phrase spoken by American presidential candidate George H. W. Bush
. There's no doubt in anybody's mind that he said it. Millions of people watched him say it live on TV and we've got it on videotape to go back and verify. But Gospel of Matthew saysThe gospel is traditionally attributed to the Apostle Matthew
because we're not 100% sure. I think the same thing is going on here; the Eastman folks believe Wright took the image, but they apparently have enough uncertainty about it that they felt the needs to hedge in their statement. RoySmith (talk) 19:44, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I generally interpret the phrase "attributed to" to indicate a degree of uncertainty. Thus Read my lips: no new taxes says,
- I don't follow the last point. Both the link and the source I use in the article attribute the photograph to L. Wright. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- My usual litmus test for "first" hooks is whether there's a finite set of things, making it possible to definitively order them and see which was first. For example, we can be pretty sure George Washington was indeed the first president of the United States; even the most skeptical of us should be willing to accept that there wasn't one before him that we just somehow haven't found yet in a google search. In this case, photography had only existed for about 20 years when this crash happened. The window of when an earlier photo might have been taken is thus limited, so at least this seems likely to be true. On general principles, however, I think we should say "believed to be" or something like that. FWIW, I found mention of this in the George Eastman House 2008 Annual Report which says "[Train wreck on the Providence Worcester Railroad near to Pawtucket], August 12, 1853. Attributed to L. Wright. Daguerreotype. so there may be some uncertainty about the photographer's identity. RoySmith (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Given the circumstances of the nomination I'm pinging some of the commentors in the recent "first" hooks discussion such as @RoySmith, SL93, and Schwede66: for advice. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Frances Darlington
- ... that although sculptor Frances Darlington was known for her painted relief panels, she also designed a railway poster?
- Source: "(An Ilkley Borough Council committee was formed) ... to bring before the public the advantage of Ilkley, and in answer to an advertisement for designs in posters to be placed at various stations on the different railways, some thirty or more competed for same in colour. (After consideration) they awarded the first prize to Miss Frances Darlington, of Ilkley" - plus loads of sources in the article for her being a sculptor.
- Reviewed: Max Weil
- Comment: Created over some months in userspace, then moved to mainspace 17 June 2024
Storye book (talk) 10:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
1969 Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick leadership election
- ... that the 1969 leadership election for the Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick was blacklisted by the American Federation of Musicians because one of the candidates was indebted to them?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jacob Green Jackson
- Comment: Hook could be much better, but the article title is just excessively long. I'm open to rewording it upon suggestion.
B3251(talk) 13:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
Bahuchar Mata Temple, Becharaji
- ... that the Bahuchar Mata Temple in Becharaji, India, is a key pilgrimage site where the transgender community worship the goddess Bahuchara Mata, who is revered as their patroness?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Submitting this due to pride month
Amadavadi (talk) 11:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Amadavadi A {{cn}} tag needs to be resolved in the Festival section, also a more academic source would be prefered for the hook (I'm unsure about the reliability of historified.in). Sohom (talk) 15:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Amadavadi has alleviated my concerns, however, I've made a few copy edits to the hook and would recuse from doing a full review. It would be nice to get a second review to approve the article. Sohom (talk) 20:13, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 18[edit]
Julian Lewis (American football)
- ... that football player Julian Lewis received offers to play college football before he had attended high school?
- Source: Times-Georgian (received offers in September 2021 - played high school beginning in 2022)
- ALT1: ... that Julian Lewis was the youngest football player to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Source: Fox 5 Atlanta
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
- Comment: Was away yesterday and didn't get the chance to nominate it in time; requesting extension per Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines (
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
)
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Counting a 2 day extension, based on the request, the article is indeed new enough. All other criteria are met. Both hooks are verified and the information is included in the article. My only possible tweak would be to tweak ALT1 from "...youngest football player to be..." to "...youngest football player ever to be...", but that's just my opinion, and you have more experience at DYK than I do, so I trust your wording for the hook if you feel your current wording is better. Waiting on QPQ to mark this as approved. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Helianthus devernii
- ... that the newly discovered and critically imperiled Red Rock sunflower (Helianthus devernii) can only be found around two desert springs located in Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area? Source: NatureServe, USGS
- ALT1: ... that the newly discovered and critically imperiled Red Rock sunflower (Helianthus devernii) can only be found in an area less than an acre at Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area? Source: BioOne
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Article created by Mezbalogh; article updated by Alalch E. and MtBotany.
Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 04:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Classicwiki, I've had a quick look at this one. I've made a couple of changes to improve grammar but there are two sections that need citations for the article to be eligible for DYK. Let me know if you can fix these and I will come back to complete the review. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 09:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow, some of the information had to be stripped, but tried to address the CN tags the best I could. Let me know what you think. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 04:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mezbalogh, @Alalch E., @MtBotany, do you know the source of the new count in 2022 which found approximately 900 individuals? I cannot find the survey. Right now I only find sources for the ~400 count. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 18:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Classicwiki Mezbalogh was the editor who added that information. It was unclear where they got it from. I left it in while looking for a good source, but was not able to find the 900. I did find a presentation from Nevada Division of Natural Heritage saying 725. I've updated the article to reflect this. That work okay? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Mezbalogh is the creator of this article and an entirely new editor unfamiliar with Wikipedia policy who had added some of their (explicitly) original research to the original version and first few revisions. So they probably got it from their individual, original, research.—Alalch E. 23:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Classicwiki Mezbalogh was the editor who added that information. It was unclear where they got it from. I left it in while looking for a good source, but was not able to find the 900. I did find a presentation from Nevada Division of Natural Heritage saying 725. I've updated the article to reflect this. That work okay? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks all, changes made look good. Classicwiki, I will complete the DYK review: Article created 18 June and is of good length; sources used look to be reliable for the content cited; I don't have access to all the sources but didn't find any issue with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck; hooks are interesting and stated in the article (I amended ALT0 to "around two desert springs" as there is a third cluster nearby), AGF on sourcing to journal I don't have access to; image is good and properly licensed; a QPQ is not required in this case. Should be good to go. I just had one remaining query on a part of the text that discusses recreational use of the area and links this to invasive weeds, which I couldn't find in the source. Once this is sorted it will be good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Oey Kim Tiang
- ... that Oey Kim Tiang translated both works of classical Chinese literature and wuxia novels into vernacular Malay?
- Source: Murtiyoso, Sutrisno (2012). "Oey Kim Tiang". In Suryadinata, Leo (ed.). Southeast Asian Personalities of Chinese Descent: A Biographical Dictionary. Institute of Southeast Asian Studies. pp. 805–807. ISBN 978-981-4345-21-7.
- ALT1 ... that Oey Kim Tiang was one of two "men with no name" to translate Jin Yong's Condor Trilogy into vernacular Malay?
- Source: "man with no name" Murtiyoso, Sutrisno (2012). "Oey Kim Tiang". In Suryadinata, Leo (ed.). Southeast Asian Personalities of Chinese Descent: A Biographical Dictionary. Institute of Southeast Asian Studies. p. 806. ISBN 978-981-4345-21-7.; two men: Suryadinata, Leo (2013). "Post-War Kung Fu Novels in Indonesia – A Preliminary Survey". In Salmon, Claudine (ed.). Literary Migrations: Traditional Chinese Fiction in Asia (17th-20th Centuries). Singapore: Institute of Southeast Asian Studies. p. 412. ISBN 978-981-4414-32-6.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
Steve Elcock
- ... that Steve Elcock's Symphony no. 6 is dedicated to "the everlasting execration of self-serving politicians, the obscenely rich and the system that allows them to remain so"?
- Source: Whitehouse, Richard (2021). "A Symphonic Odyssey", in Musical Opinion, issue 1528 (July-September 2021), p.8
Smerus (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
Traceable Radiometry Underpinning Terrestrial and Helio Studies
- ... that TRUTHS will be a satellite that allows for precise calibration of Earth observation data from other satellites?
- Reviewed:
Ennegma (talk) 11:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but "that many reports and academic publications were produced by Fox and collaborators in order to obtain both scientific and financial support for truths?" would make a cracking April Fools' hook.--Launchballer 13:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
The Griffins' Nest
- ... that the Vancouver School Board's alleged attempt to silence a nest of griffins led to the drafting of a press freedom act?
- Source: Xu, Xiao (May 17, 2022). "B.C. high-school journalists advocate for student press-freedom bill that is a first in Canada". The Globe and Mail. Retrieved May 10, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Vancouver School Board's alleged attempt to censor a student newspaper led to the drafting of a press freedom act? Source: Same as the original hook.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Soumane Touré
- Comment: ALT1 is a more "serious" alternative to the original hook, which is a play on the article's title.
Yue🌙 03:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 19[edit]
Melani Budianta
- ... that the Indonesian scholar Melani Budianta taught street children with the Ursuline order?
- Source: Hartiningsih, Maria; Pambudy, Ninuk M (4 February 2006). "Persona: Melani Budianta Mendobrak Batas-batas" [People: Melani Budianta, Breaking Barriers]. Kompas (in Indonesian). p. 12.
- ALT1: ... that Melani Budianta used street gangs and Moonies in Los Angeles to reflect on the state of democracy in Indonesia? Source: "Alumni & Voices: Melani Budianta". American Indonesian Exchange Foundation. 8 February 2022. Archived from the original on 10 June 2024. Retrieved 19 June 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Melani Budianta's family only allowed books and crafts as birthday presents? Source: Pandu, Pradipta (24 August 2023). "Persona: Melani Budianta Mendobrak Batas-batas" [People: Melani Budianta, Breaking Barriers]. Kompas (in Indonesian). Archived from the original on 19 June 2024. Retrieved 19 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gary Orfield
- Comment: I have a PDF copy of Hartiningsih and Pambudy, if needed.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
2025 Philippine general election
- ... that the 2025 Philippine general election is the first regular election to elect the Bangsamoro Parliament?
- Source: Parungao, Adrian (9 February 2024) https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1902065/barmm-execs-2025-election-to-fortify-work-toward-true-autonomy
- Reviewed:
TheNuggeteer (talk) 06:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
- @TheNuggeteer: Not a review, but the hook is in the wrong tense (should at minimum be 'will be') and I fail to see how it meets WP:DYKINT.--Launchballer 18:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: In any case, article was removed from redirect June 9 and was only nominated ten days later, three days late from the prescribed period. This is not going anywhere. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to overrule this as @TheNuggeteer: is a new user (this is their second nomination) and WP:DYKNEW can be extended for a day or two upon request. (Don't do it again mind.)--Launchballer 07:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- The QPQ tool says otherwise, but your funeral. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 08:35, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't use the QPQ tool, which is in alphabetical order anyway. I go through users' contribution histories.--Launchballer 08:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- The QPQ tool says otherwise, but your funeral. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 08:35, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to overrule this as @TheNuggeteer: is a new user (this is their second nomination) and WP:DYKNEW can be extended for a day or two upon request. (Don't do it again mind.)--Launchballer 07:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 20[edit]
Gerhard Klingenberg
... that Gerhard Klingenberg, who stepped in to play Camille in Büchner's Dantons Tod at the Burgtheater in Vienna at age 18, managed the theatre from 1971 to 1976?Source: [35]- Reviewed: to come
Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough and long enough. Sourcing is proper; everything is in German so generally AGF on the sources. QPQ is still pending. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Article was on ITN's Recent Deaths section so it remains eligible for DYK. The issue is the hook: it fails WP:DYKINT as it is reliant on specialist information that general audiences may not have (a reader who doesn't know that the Burgtheater is Austria's main theater might not get the importance, and why is Camille singled out?). It's also too complicated and has too many facts; ideally it should focus on only one primary fact. There's also the issue raised by 4meter4 in the past that these "actor stepping into roles" instances are not actually that interesting or unusual as that's what understudies tend to do. Given that WT:DYK is not a fan of these "people doing their job" hooks, here are some possible alternatives; I've struck the original hook due to the issues raised above.
- ALT1 ... that Gerhard Klingenberg took on his stage name due to a prohibition on students at his school taking up acting?
- ALT2 ... that during his tenure as the manager of Austria's Burgtheater from 1971 to 1976, Gerhard Klingenberg often directed plays with analogies to a divided Europe?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 - in my humble opinion - is trivia which neglects his importance in the theatre world, and focuses on the Austrian bureaucracy. A you aware that this man recently died?
- ALT2 has it, but is very general in the second fact. Why not mention the precise play, which is unusual? Stepping in at 18 seems more interesting to me than the analogies, and more interesting than taking on a stage name.
- I hate to name a play in English that was played in German, but for our crowd's sake:
ALT0a: ... that Gerhard Klingenberg (pictured), who stepped in at Vienna's Burgtheater at age 18 to play Camille in Büchner's Danton's Death, managed the theatre from 1971 to 1976?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)- The issue with ALT0 isn't whether or not the play's title is in German or English, but rather the nature of the hook itself. Multiple editors within the DYK community have objected to these "performer plays role" hooks as they're basically about these people doing their job, which isn't what DYK is looking for. ALT0/ALT0a, as mentioned earlier, also fails WP:DYKINT because, again, the hook is heavily reliant on specialist information or context and thus general readers won't get it. I have struck ALT0a as well for the same reasons. You need to propose a completely different angle here, or agree to ALT1/ALT2, because otherwise the nomination will be failed for lack of a suitable hook. To answer your question about Klingenberg's death, him dying recently does not change the issues with the proposal. Just because he died recently doesn't mean a hook about him should be exempt from DYKINT. Is there a problem if ALT1 is "trivia"? Because when you think about it, DYK hooks are supposed to be trivia: that's why they're called hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Third Josef Hoop cabinet
- ... that the Third Josef Hoop cabinet was formed as a coalition government, following the Anschluss?
- Source: Multiple, see inline
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/ChinaAngVirus disinformation campaign
- Comment: Hook is open to change.
TheBritinator (talk) 22:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
Orca Shipwreck
- ... that the Orca Shipwreck, dating from the Late Bronze Age and recently discovered in the eastern Mediterranean, is the earliest deep-sea shipwreck ever found?
- ALT1: ... that the Orca Shipwreck, the earliest deep-sea shipwreck discovered was recently found near Israel? Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cedd0l1wk8qo
- Reviewed:
Owenglyndur (talk) 13:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
- According to DYK-check, "Article has not been expanded 5x since it was created". (I haven't checked for copy-right violations). Also, I would have liked to know why it is called the Orca Shipwreck? Huldra (talk) 22:37, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- This article was created 4 days ago and on the same day i nominated it for DYK. The reason for the name derives from the news articvle staitng it was found next to Israels' Orca gas field. Here is the quote from the article: "While scanning the seabed ahead of developing Israel's Orca natural gas field , Energean observed an anomaly that would change our understanding of ancient navigation skills" Owenglyndur (talk) 07:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 21[edit]
Nicol Spence Galbraith
- ... that in May 1983 British public health physician Nicol Spence Galbraith voiced his concern over possible contaminated blood?
- Reviewed: Josephine Kenyon
Whispyhistory (talk) 19:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Chand Sifarish
- ... that "Chand Sifarish" peaked at #1 on the popularity charts?
- Reviewed:
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 17:33, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Emmanuella Atora
- ... that Olympic taekwondo practitioner Emmanuella Atora described her career as "I hit people for a living"?
- Source: Gabon Media Time ("« Je tape les gens pour vivre », c’est en ces termes qu’Emmanuella Atora Eyeghe a décidé de célébrer sa qualification directe le plus grand rendez-vous d’athlétisme au monde." translated "'I hit people for a living', these are the words that Emmanuella Atora Eyeghe decided to celebrate her direct qualification for the biggest athletics event in the world.")
- ALT1: ... that Emmanuella Atora hits people for a living? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
- Comment: ALT1 is a quirky version of the initial hook. Hoping to get this featured around the time she competes at the Olympics; see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Discussion_on_Olympics for more information.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Evann Girault
- ... that Evann Girault is Niger's first Olympic fencer?
- Source: L'Autre Republicain (translated: "He made a firm commitment to qualify Niger for the first time at the Olympic Games in Fencing.") / L'Autre Republicain (translated: "Evann Abba Girault, qualified for the Olympic Games in Paris")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
- Comment: Hoping to get this featured around the time he competes at the Olympics; see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Discussion_on_Olympics for more information.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:25, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Union for Democracy and Social Progress (Democratic Republic of the Congo)
- ... that after the Union for Democracy and Social Progress won the 2018 Congolese general election, its presidential candidate was criticized as unproven, inexperienced and lacking his father's charisma?
- Source: Burke, Jason (11 January 2019). "Why Kabila may be real victor of DRC's contested election". The Guardian. Retrieved 21 June 2024.
Tshisekedi is the leader of the Union for Democracy and Social Progress (UDPS), DRC's oldest and largest opposition party. Critics say he is unproven, inexperienced and lacks the charisma of his father. 'His father was a man of the country. The son is very limited,' Valentin Mubake, former secretary-general of Tshisekedi's party told the Guardian last month.
Yue🌙 22:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
185 Montague Street
- ... that just over a decade after 185 Montague Street was completed, one tenant proposed tearing down the building's upper stories? Source: "Brooklyn Offices in New Ownership; Webb & Knapp to Change 185 Montague St. Under Lease to Bank of Manhattan". The New York Times. October 14, 1944
- ALT1: ... that 185 Montague Street in New York City was once called "one of the jazziest little Art Deco skyscrapers in town"? Source: Morrone, Francis. An Architectural Guidebook to Brooklyn. Gibbs Smith. p. 146
- ALT2: ... that one critic likened the design of 185 Montague Street in New York City to the horns of Count Basie's orchestra? Source: Morrone, Francis. An Architectural Guidebook to Brooklyn. Gibbs Smith. p. 146
- ALT3: ... that 185 Montague Street in New York City was nearly fully occupied upon its completion, despite high vacancy rates in nearby buildings? Source: "New Bank to Serve Brooklyn Heights; Will Open This Week in Twelve-Story Title Guaranty Building". The New York Times. March 30, 1930.
- Reviewed: Michael Wettlaufer
- Comment: more hooks later
Epicgenius (talk) 15:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
Current nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on June 22[edit]
Keegan Baker
- ... that an EastEnders storyline depicting Keegan Baker and Shakil Kazemi being stabbed was considered "one of the most important the show has ever embarked on" by executive consultant John Yorke?
- Source: Hughes, Johnathon (22 March 2018). "EastEnders to tackle knife crime in hard-hitting new storyline". Radio Times. Archived from the original on 2 July 2018. Retrieved 17 June 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the wedding between EastEnders characters Keegan Baker and Tiffany Butcher was confirmed after actors Zack Morris and Maisie Smith were seen filming it on-location? Source: Dainty, Sophie (24 September 2019). "EastEnders films a surprise wedding that nobody saw coming". Digital Spy. Archived from the original on 4 November 2021. Retrieved 21 June 2024.
- Reviewed:
FishLoveHam (talk) 15:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
WZZM
- ... that a Michigan TV station rescued and restored a weather ball (pictured) that had been sitting for years in a scrapyard? Source: Heibel, Lawrence R. (March 28, 2002). "Weather ball may sit on pole by station: WZZM TV-13 is seeking a zoning variance to build the new home for the stainless steel sphere". The Grand Rapids Press. p. A25. (Available upon request)
- ALT1: ... that the owner of a Michigan TV station ordered its news director out of bed to give him personal election reports? Source: https://search.proquest.com/docview/216739809
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sud 777
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
Aid climbing
- ... that in 1993, Lynn Hill became the first person to free climb The Nose (pictured), one of the most famous aid climbing routes on El Capitan?
- Source: Outside Magazine, PlanetMountain, Gripped Magazine
- Reviewed:
Aszx5000 (talk) 13:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
National Rally–The Republicans alliance crisis
- ... that following the 2024 European Parliament election, a political crisis broke out on the French right wing?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lookwide Camp
- Comment: A major event in French politics
Moondragon21 (talk) 01:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
Jacob Geller
- ... that Jewish video essayist Jacob Geller cited Jewish traditions of study and scholarship as an inspiration behind his analysis of popular culture?
- Source: Engber, Corinne. "Running on Serendipity: Jacob Geller on Video Game Journalism", Jewish Boston, 16 February 2021. Retrieved 2 June 2024.
- Reviewed:
Orchastrattor (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles
- ... that Femke Bol won the women's 400 metres hurdles (medalists pictured) at the 2024 European Athletics Championships in a championship record of 52.49 seconds?
- Source: source ("1 1906 BOL Femke Netherlands NED 23 FEB 2000 6 0.180 52.49 CR")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dorothy Dworkin
- Comment: I think that the image should be cropped like it is in the article:
Editør (talk) 16:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment – I have also expanded the article 2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles five times, so maybe it could be included in an alternative hook, but I haven't figured out how to do this or what that hook should be. – Editør (talk) 23:27, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if you can come up with a hook that covers both topics, we can simply add this. I can do the mechanics for you, just give me a ping. However, I struggle to think of a good hook for such a double-nomination. If you can't think of something suitable, simply nominate this as a separate listing. Also, please see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table for your info. Schwede66 04:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for offering your help. I was also struggling with the hook, the ones I can think of lose focus, so I will just leave it like this. The first round heats of the women's 400 m hurdles at the 2024 Summer Olympics are on 5 August, according to this schedule, so maybe this hook could be added on that day? – Editør (talk) 08:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: I have nominated the second article for another DYK, you could also use that one for the Olympic theme, let me know if you require me to do anything for this. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for offering your help. I was also struggling with the hook, the ones I can think of lose focus, so I will just leave it like this. The first round heats of the women's 400 m hurdles at the 2024 Summer Olympics are on 5 August, according to this schedule, so maybe this hook could be added on that day? – Editør (talk) 08:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if you can come up with a hook that covers both topics, we can simply add this. I can do the mechanics for you, just give me a ping. However, I struggle to think of a good hook for such a double-nomination. If you can't think of something suitable, simply nominate this as a separate listing. Also, please see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table for your info. Schwede66 04:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Asphendou Cave petroglyphs
- ... that petroglyphs from western Crete may depict extinct Candiacervus deer from the Paleolithic? Source: Palaeolithic cave art from Crete, Greece
- ALT1: ... that the creators of the original Asphendou Cave petroglyphs had their work carved over by later artists? Source: Palaeolithic cave art from Crete, Greece
- ALT2: ... that the key needed access to the Asphendou Cave petroglyphs is kept by someone in a nearby village? Source: 11,000-Year-Old Greek Cave Art Found on Crete
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Esther Tailfeathers
- Comment: Did you know that Palaeolithic art in Crete was shown no respect by Bronze Age artists? Unless of course, adding more to it was a sign of respect. Alternative hook suggestions are welcome.
CMD (talk) 14:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
DI MA-1 Mk. III
- ... that the DI MA-1 Mk. III rifle was made in Myanmar without license despite claims that it was made entirely in Myanmar?
- ALT1: ... that Chinese media criticized Myanmar for making the DI MA-1 Mk. III rifle without permission from China? Source: https://kienthuc.net.vn/quan-su/trum-dao-nhai-vu-khi-trung-quoc-to-cao-myanmar-sao-chep-sung-qbz-97-1452588.html (check specifically at https://kienthuc.net.vn/quan-su/trum-dao-nhai-vu-khi-trung-quoc-to-cao-myanmar-sao-chep-sung-qbz-97-1452588.html#p-5#p-5)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gmac Cash
- Comment: Not sure if the hook ideas are fine. Had to rely on mostly Chinese (and one Vietnamese) source.
Ominae (talk) 13:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 23[edit]
Diesel (donkey)
- ... that after disappearing in 2019, Diesel is "living his best life" with a wild elk herd?
- ALT1: ... that after disappearing in 2019, a donkey is now "living his best life" with a wild elk herd?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bad Dürrenberg burial
gobonobo + c 02:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Goodboy Galaxy
- ... that Goodboy Galaxy was the first commercially released title for the Game Boy Advance in over 13 years?
- Source: Yin-Poole, Wesley (28 August 2021). ""First commercial GBA game in 13 years" smashes Kickstarter target in less than a day Goodboy, Galaxy". Euro Gamer. Retrieved 27 June 2024. / McFerran, Damien (27 August 2021). "The Game Boy Advance Is Getting Its First Commercial Release In 13 Years, Goodboy Galaxy". Nintendo Life. Retrieved 27 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Liechtenstein at the 1936 Summer Olympics
- Comment: From the roster of recent AFC graduates; as promised on this article's talk page; on behalf of creator Oz346. (Stay tuned as I get another nomination of my own up and running.)
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 09:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Red (Taylor's Version)
- ... that the Taylor Swift album Red (Taylor's Version) was credited by The Independent with creating the "Sad Girl Autumn" popular culture phenomenon?
- Source: "Speaking of Taylor Swift, we must thank her for originating the season. Last November, the singer-songwriter put a name to “Sad Girl Autumn” when she released a re-recorded version of her album Red" (The Independent)
Ippantekina (talk) 12:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Lahug Airport
- ... that the Cebu IT Park was originally where Lahug Airport was?
- Source: [36]
- ALT1: ... that after former Philippine President Ramon Magsaysay's plane launched from Lahug Airport, he had a plane crash which ultimately ended his life? Source: [37]
- Reviewed:
TheNuggeteer (talk) 05:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Mount Leona Fire
- ... that sources have reported the Mount Leona Fire (smoke pictured) as little as 4,820 acres (1,950 ha) or over 6,000 acres (2,400 ha)?
- Source:
- "Ferry County, Washington Community Wildfire Protection Plan (CWPP) section "4.2.2.1.3 Mount Leona Fire (2001) - 4,820 acres" bottom of page 65
- Associated Press (August 27, 2001). "Washington wildfires winding down". Ellensburg Daily Record. p. 3. gives 6,199 acres
- ALT1: ... that the Mount Leona Fire (smoke pictured) was finally contained on the upper slopes of Profanity?
- Source:
- "Ferry County, Washington Community Wildfire Protection Plan (CWPP) gives 4820 section "4.2.2.1.3 Mount Leona Fire (2001) - 4,820 acres" middle of page 66
- "Once the fire had reached higher elevations on Profanity Peak and the northerly slopes of the headwaters of Long Alec Creek, the fire behavior moderated so that hand crews and dozers were able to stop the fire"
Kevmin § 23:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
Wong Sau Ying
- ... that after Wong Sau Ying attempted to assassinate a British colonial official, the police and press began to associate the bob cut with anarchism?
- Source: Harper, Tim (2021). Underground Asia: Global Revolutionaries and the Assault on Empire. Harvard University Press. pp. 509–510. ISBN 978-0-674-72461-7.
Grnrchst (talk) 09:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting and clears Earwig, length, QPQ, and formatting, but can you provide a quotation directly in the reference to verify the claim? Orchastrattor (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Orchastrattor: It's tricky, because this hook is summing up two full pages of information. It's not something I can easily quote. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Sam Salz (American football)
- ... that a wide receiver on the Texas A&M Aggies football team never played organized football?
- ALT1: ... that a wide receiver on the Texas A&M Aggies football team may never be able to play in a game because of his religious beliefs? Source: Sabbath runs from sun down on Friday to an hour past sundown on Saturday which means Sam can only compete in Saturday night games for the Aggies.
- ALT2: ... that football player Sam Salz wears the jersey number 39 and a Chabad "A&M” kippah under his football helmet? Source: donning a “Chabad A&M” kippah under his helmet while wearing the number “39” to symbolize the 39 tasks and items that are avoided during Sabbath, known in Hebrew as lamed tet melachot.
- ALT3: ... that by rule Sam Salz could not even try out for the Texas A&M Aggies football team but he is on the team? Source: the rule was that to try out for the team, it was required to play high school football on a varsity level which Salz didn’t do. So, he got creative. Getting on the team There was a field right next to the Aggies’ training facility, and Salz, an obser- vant Jew, went there every daytotrain,asidefromShab- bat. He worked on taking hand-offs, catching, and doing footwork.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cosmic Ray (film)
- Comment: There may be other hooks in there. I avoided the claim of first or only orthodox Jewish football player in NCAA Division I because of verifiability.
Bruxton (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- This is only a preliminary review for now as the article needs a copyedit when it comes to wording and missing punctuation. However, the article does seem long enough and is adequately sourced and a QPQ has been done. My preferred hook is ALT1, but it doesn't exactly match the article or the source so it might fail at WT:DYK or ERRORS. ALT0 could probably be modified to say he never played organized football before signing up as the current wording might be too vague. ALT2 might need additional context especially for readers from countries where Judaism is not a common religion: my suggestion would be to propose a new hook that explains his 39 jersey and how it related to the Sabbath. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for checking out this nomination.. I did some copyediting but it is hard for me to find my own errors so I would appreciate you calling them out. For hook ideas I prefer that someone click the article to discover rather than getting in the weeds with specificity in the hook. For fifth and sixth hook ideas:
- ALT4: ... that a wide receiver on the Texas A&M Aggies football team wears number 39 to symbolize the tasks or items which Jews should avoid during the Sabbath?
- ALT5: ... that American football player Sam Salz wears number 39 to remind him of "lamed tet melachot"?
- Bruxton (talk) 15:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 sounds good to me. The article is improved but the wording still seems a bit weird (for example, "As a young boy Salz never watched college football because it is played on the Shabbat and he is an observant orthodox Jew." and "He was not invited to join the football team so he practiced by himself within sight of the football team and eventually earned a roster spot.") I don't have access to the NYT source; is 2003 mentioned in that article? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:18, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Excellent. You can archive a link to read text it by putting the url in archive.ph. Here is a link to the NYT article. I got 2003 from "Salz, 21, became obsessed with playing college football at a young age, for reasons he can’t exactly pinpoint." It is a 2024 article and 2024-21 is c. 2003. Regarding the two sentences, I do not see the weirdness to their structurel; if you do please edit them. Bruxton (talk) 23:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 sounds good to me. The article is improved but the wording still seems a bit weird (for example, "As a young boy Salz never watched college football because it is played on the Shabbat and he is an observant orthodox Jew." and "He was not invited to join the football team so he practiced by himself within sight of the football team and eventually earned a roster spot.") I don't have access to the NYT source; is 2003 mentioned in that article? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:18, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Joseph Petzoldt
- ... that Albert Einstein in 1914 wrote to Joseph Petzoldt that he long shared his convictions, after reading one of his philosophical books?
- Reviewed:
D.H (talk) 15:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres, 2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles
- ... that Femke Bol won the women's 400 metres and 400 metres hurdles (final pictured) in an unprecedented double victory at the 2022 European Athletics Championships?
- Source: Dutch source "Missie geslaagd. Femke Bol heeft vrijdagavond in München voor een unieke dubbelslag op een groot titeltoernooi in de atletiekwereld gezorgd. Het 22-jarige supertalent liep naar de Europese titel op de 400 meter horden. Twee dagen eerder was ze al Europees kampioene op de 400 meter zonder hindernissen geworden. Geen enkele vrouw deed dat eerder." English source alternative
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/María Pacheco, Template:Did you know nominations/Alyssa Mendoza
Editør (talk) 10:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 24[edit]
Department of State v. Muñoz
- ... that the U.S. Supreme Court held in Department of State v. Muñoz (2024) that a U.S. citizen "does not have a fundamental liberty interest in her noncitizen spouse being admitted to the country"?
- Source: Slip opinion L.A. Times Washington Post
- ALT1: ... that the U.S. Supreme Court recently decided that the fundamental right to marriage does not give a U.S. citizen a fundamental right to bring her non-citizen spouse to the United States? Source: Bloomberg Law
- ALT2: ...that the U.S. Supreme Court case of Department of State v. Muñoz (2024) decided that the fundamental right to marry does not give a U.S. citizen a right to challenge her spouse's visa denial? Source: Bloomberg Law
- Reviewed:
SilverLocust 💬 15:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC) (edited 11:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC)).
ML Buch
- ... that a video accompanying ML Buch's debut album showed viewers her inner self—literally?
- Source: "Skinned comes with a visual accompaniment in the form of five music videos, as well as footage captured from inside Buch’s body by a camera-carrying pill." https://pitchfork.com/news/ml-buch-releases-new-album-skinned-shares-videos-watch/
- Note: considering a link to capsule endoscopy, perhaps on the words "inner self" or "literally", but I'm aware that would be a WP:EASTEREGG
BanjoZebra (talk) 14:31, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Matahi Brightwell
- ... that Matahi Brightwell (pictured) introduced the waka ama (outrigger canoe racing) sport to New Zealand?
- Source: [38] "Mr Brightwell was made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for starting waka ama in Aotearoa, a sport he picked up – along with his name and his wife Raipoia – while he was building the ocean-going waka Hawaikinui in Tahiti."
- ALT1: ... that Matahi Brightwell (pictured) left the eyes of Ngātoro-i-rangi blank? Source: [39] "When Mr Brightwell created Ngatoroirangi, he was so upset by the negativity that he left the sculpture's eyes blank."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sofiya Vakman
- Comment: Welcome any suggestions for alternative hooks or improvements to the hook or article. There's also a free picture of the Ngātoro-i-rangi sculpture (currently in the article) that could be used as an alternative to the picture of Brightwell, although I'm not sure it'll show up well at 100x100.
Chocmilk03 (talk) 02:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Henrik Igityan National Centre for Aesthetics
- ... that the world's first childrens' art museum has 150,000 artworks by children in its collection? Source: no. of artworks=https://armeniadiscovery.com/en/articles/national-center-of-aesthetics & 'world's first'=https://www.thecaucasustours.com/childrens-art-gallery/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/TBC
- Comment: I will do the QPQ shortly
Lajmmoore (talk) 21:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
Zhou Xuan (Three Kingdoms)
- ... that Zhou Xuan's dream interpretations were recorded to be accurate eight or nine times out of ten?
- Source: Records of the Three Kingdoms vol. 29, translated in Robert Ford Campany, The Chinese Dreamscape, pp. 109-111
- Reviewed:
Kzyx (talk) 20:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
Hercules (1973 ship)
- ... that on 20 July 1982 the neutral oil tanker Hercules was scuttled after being struck by an Argentine bomb during the Falklands War?
- Source: "June 8 .... that afternoon Hercules was attacked without warning in three different strikes by Argentine aircraft using bombs and air-to-surface missiles" from: Sohn, Louis B.; Noyes, John (25 October 2021). Cases and Materials on the Law of the Sea. BRILL. p. 82. ISBN 978-90-04-48042-1. and "20 July: The VLCC Hercules has her seacocks opened ... it had been decided that the unexploded bomb aboard was too dangerous to defuse and thus sinking was the only alternative" from:Ambrose, A. J. (1983). Jane's Merchant Shipping Review. Jane's Publishing Company. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-7106-0261-9.
- ALT1: ... that the neutral Liberian oil tanker Hercules was attacked three times by Argentine aircraft during the Falklands War and eventually scuttled? Source: As above
- ALT2: ... that the neutral oil tanker Hercules carried an unexploded bomb into a Brazilian port after being attacked by Argentine aircraft during the Falklands War? Source: As above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/War Tank America
- Comment: ALT0 if it can be run on 20th July, others if not.
Dumelow (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
Crown Building (Manhattan)
- ... that the first home of the Museum of Modern Art was six rooms in New York City's Crown Building? Source: "New Modern Art Museum Opens Exhibit Today: First Showing of Paintings in Heckscher Building Galleries L. by Invitation Admit Public Tomorrow Patrons Lend Works by Cezanne Gauguin. Seurat". New York Herald Tribune. November 7, 1929. p. 48; Rothman, Lily (November 7, 2014). "The Museum of Modern Art, Then and Now". TIME.
- ALT1: ... that Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos bought New York City's Crown Building because of a tearful plea? Source: Moses, Paul (April 10, 1990). "Banker: Imelda's Tears Did Trick". Newsday. p. 17
- ALT2: ... that after New York City's Crown Building was sold for tens of millions of US dollars, the Philippine government received about US$3,000? Source: "New York Crown Building Auctioned at $93.6 Million". The Wall Street Journal. February 11, 1991. p. B5A; "NY taxmen go after a third Philippine bldg". Filipino Reporter. March 24, 1994. p. 1.
- ALT3: ... that New York City's Crown Building was the world's costliest office building per square foot when it was sold for US$1.75 billion in 2015? Source: Clarke, Katherine (May 15, 2015). "He's a Big Deal Again an Empire's in Play as Spitzer Calls the Shots". New York Daily News. p. 1.
- ALT4: ... that a building once owned by a Philippine dictator is now a luxury hotel? Source: Moses, Paul (April 10, 1990). "Banker: Imelda's Tears Did Trick". Newsday. p. 17; Wrathall, Claire (August 25, 2022). "Inside New York's newest — and most expensive — hotel". Financial Times.
- ALT5: ... that a former home of the Museum of Modern Art is now a luxury hotel? Source: Rothman, Lily (November 7, 2014). "The Museum of Modern Art, Then and Now". TIME; Wrathall, Claire (August 25, 2022). "Inside New York's newest — and most expensive — hotel". Financial Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/
- Comment: QPQ pending
Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
Oriana Skylar Mastro
- ... that political scientist Oriana Skylar Mastro enlisted in the US military in 2004 following advice from deputy commander of then U.S. Pacific Command, despite having planned to pursue an academic career? Source: https://news.stanford.edu/2021/11/11/combining-military-service-scholarship/
- Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status W9793 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 23 June 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Oriana Skylar Mastro 2; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Articles created/expanded on June 25[edit]
KEYE-TV
- ... that a Texas TV station hoped that being named for an eye would ease viewer confusion? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/77199766/
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:36, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Eurovision Song Contest 1989
- ... that the inclusion of two preteen competing performers at the Eurovision Song Contest 1989 led to the introduction of an age rule for participants at future contests?
- ALT1: ... that Yugoslavia's win at the Eurovision Song Contest 1989 was the country's first in twenty-four attempts, and would prove to be its only victory as the country began to break up two years later? Source: [40]
- Reviewed:
Sims2aholic8 (talk) 13:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Coon Rapids Dam
- ... that the Coon Rapids Dam on the Mississippi River is the northern terminus of the river's navigable portion?
- Source: Anfinson, John (2003). River of History: A Historic Resources Study of the Mississippi National River and Recreation Area (PDF). Retrieved 25 June 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ to come.
Pbritti (talk) 04:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Liechtenstein at the 1936 Summer Olympics
- ... that for the 1936 Summer Olympics, Liechtenstein flipped their flag upside down?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Yep, it's that fact.
Arconning (talk) 17:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
- The original hook has MOS:EGG issues. Here's one possibility. Feel free to change it or suggest others. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a ... that at the 1936 Summer Olympics, Liechtenstein changed their official flag after seeing Haiti's flag, discovering they were similar?
- I also thought this. Alternative one proposed seems more appropriate. TheBritinator (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that for the 1936 Summer Olympics, Liechtenstein flipped their flag upside down?
- [41] I think this fact would be far enough from the already posted fact for Haiti. Arconning (talk) 04:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Note that this fact has already featured at DYK (see Template:Did you know nominations/Haiti at the 1936 Summer Olympics). Kingsif (talk) 22:35, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Given this may lead to a "rerun" per Kingsif, I'm pretty doubtful of its chances. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 05:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: I made ALT2 before your comment which would be a different hook. I just have no clue how to replace it as the main one lol. Arconning (talk) 06:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Roscoe "Red" Jackson
- ... that Roscoe "Red" Jackson was the last person to be publicly executed in the United States?
- Source: May 26, 1937. "Red" Jackson Pays for Crime on Gallows. Stone County News-Oracle. [42]
- Reviewed:
GuyBanks (talk) 14:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Valence populism
- ... that valence populism cannot be positioned on the left–right political spectrum?
- Source: Zulianello, Mattia; Larsen, Erik Gahner (27 February 2023). "Blurred positions: The ideological ambiguity of valence populist parties". Party Politics. 30 (1): 190. doi:10.1177/13540688231161205. ISSN 1354-0688.
Vacant0 (talk) 11:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Kelvite sounding machine
- ... that the Kelvite sounding machine used a chemical reaction to determine the depth of water in which a ship was sailing?
- Source: Y. Berard. "Thomson pneumatic sounder". National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Retrieved 24 June 2024.
AntientNestor (talk) 09:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Tim Hughes (soldier)
- ... that decorated Aboriginal soldier Tim Hughes (pictured) was a successful soldier-settler after World War II?
- Source: Hall, Robert (1996). "Hughes, Timothy (1919–1976)". Australian Dictionary of Biography
- ALT1: ... that Aboriginal soldier Tim Hughes (pictured) was decorated for remarkable bravery, exceptional coolness and initiative during the Battle of Buna–Gona? Source: Smith, Ian (2022). "Tim Hughes MM MBE". For Love of Country: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander service personnel from South Australia since Federation, p. 107.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ List of historic places in Kaikōura District
Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Empire of Death (Doctor Who episode)
- ... that Russell T Davies came up with the premise of the Doctor Who episode "Empire of Death" fifty years before he wrote it?
- ALT1: ... that the twist of the Doctor Who episode "Empire of Death" was inspired by the Star Wars sequels? Source: https://screenrant.com/doctor-who-season-14-ending-ruby-sunday-parentage-rey-star-wars-comparison-explained-showrunner/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/A9 dualling project
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Peter Talbot (bishop)
- ... that Peter Talbot (pictured), Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, was imprisoned in 1678 due to an anti-Catholic conspiracy?
- Reviewed:
SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 01:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 26[edit]
Not in Love (Crystal Castles song)
- ... that Robert Smith's demo vocals for "Not in Love" were so captivating that Crystal Castles canceled their studio recording plans to keep his original demo in the final track?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: review TBD
Skyshiftertalk 22:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- Man, I haven't heard this record in years. @Skyshifter: Not a review, but I would question whether this deserves a standalone article when the content could be merged into Not in Love (Platinum Blonde song). This would not affect eligibility here because it can run as a 5x expansion.--Launchballer 18:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree with a merge as this version got coverage of its own for being its own thing. It certainly meets WP:NCOVER ("Notable covers are eligible for standalone articles, provided that the article on the cover can be reasonably detailed based on facts independent of the original"). I think this is a valid case of having a separate article. Skyshiftertalk 18:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- I guess. Not that it's your problem, but the original's really short and I'd question its notability. Might redirect it to your article and see if anybody whinges. Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
WIAT
- ... that an Alabama TV station fired nearly its entire news staff and replaced its newscasts with a countdown clock for more than a month? Source: https://ajrarchive.org/Article.asp?id=2317
- ALT1: ... that the manager of an Alabama TV station expected a countdown clock to get more viewers than his newscasts did? Source: Hubbard, Russell (December 31, 1997). "Time for change: Countdown clock subs for 42 news". The Birmingham News. pp. 1A, 7A.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yang Jingru (speed skater)
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Brandiose
- ... that Brandiose's design work for the Rocket City Trash Pandas led to the team selling $4 million in merchandise before it played its first game?
- Reviewed:
Kimikel (talk) 15:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- I think I'll review this, but I'll have to request a second opinion as this will be my first DYK review. GoldRomean (talk) 01:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - The source provided says that the $4 million in sales is based on the team name, not Brandiose's design.
- Interesting:
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Overall: My first DYK review and I'm not sure about the hook, so requesting another reviewer. Thank you. GoldRomean (talk) 02:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- In addition to the original source, I added another (the NYT link) that directly attributes the merchandise sales to Brandiose's rebrand. Kimikel (talk) 12:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel:: Is Brandiose responsible for the name change/rebrand? If so, perhaps you could remove "design" from the hook, maybe that would work better?
- @GoldRomean: The name itself was chosen by a fan poll. Brandiose was responsible for the design of all the branding. Based on that, if there's a better way to phrase that part of the hook, I'd have no problems with it. Kimikel (talk)
- @Kimikel: What about "... that Brandiose's design work for the Rocket City Trash Pandas helped the team sell $4 million in merchandise before it played its first game?" But I'm still hesitant... I'll leave for more experienced DYK people. GoldRomean (talk) 00:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @GoldRomean: The name itself was chosen by a fan poll. Brandiose was responsible for the design of all the branding. Based on that, if there's a better way to phrase that part of the hook, I'd have no problems with it. Kimikel (talk)
- @Kimikel:: Is Brandiose responsible for the name change/rebrand? If so, perhaps you could remove "design" from the hook, maybe that would work better?
Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest
- ... that Tali (pictured) was the first artist to represent Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest in thirty-one years when she participated in the 2024 contest?
- ALT1: ... that only three songs which have represented Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest have been performed in the country's national language? Source: [45][46]
- ALT2: ... that although Luxembourg has won the Eurovision Song Contest five times, none of the winning artists representing the country have been native Luxembourgers? Source: [47]
- Reviewed:
Sims2aholic8 (talk) 13:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Ling Nam
- ... that the founder, Tomas Fung, founded the restaurant Ling Nam with only 3,000 Philippine pesos?
- Source: Ravenholt 1968, p. 38, [48]
- Reviewed:
TheNuggeteer (talk) 02:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
Whoops (song)
- ... that while announcing her song "Whoops", Meghan Trainor clarified that it was not about infidelity from her husband?
- Source: Instagram
Articles created/expanded on June 27[edit]
Dan Erlewine
- ... that American luthier Dan Erlewine has built a guitar named Lucy?
- ALT1: ... that Acoustic Guitar Magazine has said that Dan Erlewine "might be the most famous guitar repairperson on earth"? Source: Same source as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thriller (Fall Out Boy song)
Lightburst (talk) 22:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Monumite
- ... that in 2010 Unilever invited Britons to congregate and worship at a shrine to Marmite (pictured)?
- Source: "Unilever, Marmite’s parent company, says the sculpture in Burton upon Trent will provide a place for fans to “congregate and worship” the salty spread" from: Baker, Rosie (19 October 2010). "Marmite unveils brand shrine". Marketing Week. Retrieved 27 June 2024.<
- ALT1: ... that a Portland Stone sculpture of a jar of Marmite (pictured) stands in Burton upon Trent, England? Source: "Marmite lovers says they are delighted with the new sculpture celebrating the yeast spread which has been sited in the centre of Burton-upon-Trent. ... Carved from Portland Stone, the sculpture also incorporates some digital elements. ... 'We intended to keep the design of the piece very simple. The form of the Marmite jar is so instantly recognisable; we wanted to celebrate this iconicity by producing a schematic representation of it'" from: "Marmite sculpture unveiled". BBC News. 18 October 2010. Retrieved 27 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Catherine G. Williams
Dumelow (talk) 16:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Strobilanthes tonkinensis
- ... that leaves of Strobilanthes tonkinensis taste like glutinous rice?
- Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9222377/ "STL has a unique aroma of glutinous rice when dried..."
- ALT1: ... that dried leaves of Strobilanthes tonkinensis give some teas a glutinous rice flavor without using rice? Source: https://www.teasenz.com/chinese-tea/what-is-sticky-rice-pu-erh-tea-nuo-mi-xiang-cha.html "Is there any real sticky rice added to the tea? Nope, it’s because of one secret ingredient: a local herb from Yunnan called “Nuo Mi Xiang” or “Semnostachya Menglaensis”"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fume hood
awkwafaba (📥) 15:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Buq Buq labor camp
- ... that after being freed from Buq Buq labor camp in Italian-occupied Egypt, Libyan Jewish prisoners had to walk home across the desert?
- Source: Roumani, Maurice M. “The Changing Fortunes of Libyan Jews under Italian Colonialism.” Jews of Libya: Coexistence, Persecution, Resettlement, Liverpool University Press, 2021, pp. 33–34. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctv3029jsr.9. Accessed 27 June 2024.
꧁Zanahary꧂ 12:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Jenny Hurn
- ... that Jenny Hurn (pictured) in Lincolnshire, England, is said to be haunted by a boggart that crosses the River Trent in a dish propelled by oars the size of teaspoons?
- Source: "boggart-haunted Jenny Hurn Bend ... 'Jenny' was a long-lived Trentside legend, a water sprite called a 'boggart,' diminutive but dangerous, here 'described' by the pioneering folklorist Ethel Rudkin (1893-1985) .... occasionally crosses the river from the western side, embarked in a small craft resembling a large pie-dish. The pygmy propels the dish rapidly across the stream by means of a minute pair of oars, the size of teaspoons" from: Turner, Derek (7 July 2022). Edge of England: Landfall in Lincolnshire. Hurst Publishers. p. 293. ISBN 978-1-78738-887-1.
Dumelow (talk) 12:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Pure Japanese
- ... that Pure Japanese is titled so in its native Japan?
- Source: The movie's trailer and poster
- ALT0a: ... that Pure Japanese is released under this English title in its native Japan?
- ALT1: ... that Pure Japanese uses the idea that "if the operating system called the language controls the thoughts and actions of the human race to deliver language OS DNAs to the future"? Source: If Japanese language is the human OS tool and if that OS is simply driving the human race to deliver "Language OS DNAs" to the future, the question is "where is this demigod-like language OS taking Japanese tribe to?" That was the idea.
- ALT2: ... that Pure Japanese is a film that offers both Ninja shows and action scenes? Source: I learned the Ninja moves in Nikko. I practiced with the actual Ninja players at Nikko Edo Wonderland a few times but prior to that, I spent more time in the studio with the action team to get the basic movements down.
- ALT3: ... that in Pure Japanese, there is a tool called the "PJ kit" to measure the purity of Japanese people? Source: 本作に登場する検査キット(PJキット)はパロディというか、ギャグですよね。/The test kit (PJ kit) in this work is a parody or a gag.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of roles and awards of Liza Soberano
- Comment: Yes, the hook is stating the obvious, but just notice the irony in the title. I've provided a modified version of hook in case it's a little unclear; I just think ALT0 is more concise. Please hold for July 17, on the movie's second anniversary outside Japan
Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 08:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 28[edit]
ABC Cinema, Brighton
- ... that the world premiere of Brighton Rock was held at Brighton's ABC Cinema (pictured)?
- Source: Allen Eyles (2003), Brighton and Hove Cinemas, p.71. "At midnight on Thursday 8 January 1948, the world premiere of Brighton Rock took place at the Savoy (no other cinema was in the running, as it was made by ABC's associated production company)." (First sentence from a full paragraph about the premiere. The Savoy was the name of the cinema at the time, as noted in the article.)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chicken of Tomorrow Contest
- Comment: Another Brighton article contributed as part of the recent restarting of Wikipedia:WikiProject Brighton.
Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Diamond Lake, Illinois
- ... that Jack Benny, Glenn Miller, and Lawrence Welk all performed at the Lakeside Cottage Resort in Diamond Lake, Illinois?
- Source: Mundelein, Arcadia Publishing:
- ALT1: ... that future presidential candidate George McGovern was a student pastor in a church in Diamond Lake, Illinois? Source: https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/george-mcgovern-recalled-as-a-pastor/article_b9eb3000-e9c6-5d4f-98e5-fec1d1156655.html
"As a student pastor at Diamond Lake Community Methodist Church for parts of 1946 and 1947, McGovern early on demonstrated a knack for engaging and connecting with others"
- ALT2: ... that a bar in Diamond Lake, Illinois, was described by the Daily Herald as "the dart headquarters for the Windy City and Northern Illinois dart leagues" in 2008? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/26987615/
"They introduced darts, real ones, to the Irish Mill, which later became the dart headquarters for the Windy City and Northern Illinois dart leagues."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My first one. A bit nervous and i'm hoping i'm doing everything correctly. Some of the sources come from my work in Mundelein, Illinois (especially the education one), but not including it still makes the prose large enough :)
SeymourHolcomb (talk) 19:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Philippines at the 1924 Summer Olympics
- ... that for the opening ceremony of the 1924 Summer Olympics, the Philippines held two flags as they were still a colony of the United States?
- ALT1: ... that the Philippines sent athletes at the 1924 Summer Olympics because of an athlete that didn't compete at the Games? Source: [51]
- ALT2: ... that at the 1924 Summer Olympics, the Philippines was the first Southeast Asian nation to compete at the Olympics? Source: [52]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gladys Cromwell
Arconning (talk) 16:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Sport in Vatican City
- ... that sport in Vatican City started in the 1st century, when a chariot racing track was built in what was then ancient Rome?
- ALT1: ... that in the aftermath of World War II, sport in Vatican City was encouraged by Pope Pius XII? Source: [55]
- Reviewed:
Arconning (talk) 09:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Horton Davies
- ... that ten years after publishing a book about Great South African Christians, Horton Davies (pictured) gave a speech criticizing South African churches for their role in Apartheid? Source:
Great South African Christians, Oxford University Press, 1951
(verifying the book was published in 1951), in "Horton (Marlais) Davies", in Gale Literature: Contemporary Authors (September 28, 2005);Speaking on "The Church in South Africa: a Warning."
andClearly the churches and the synagogues must take some responsibility for the situation as they are the guardian of the nation's conscience," he said
("he" being Horton Davies, verifying his criticism of South African churches in 1961) "Church Role in S. Africa Outlined", The Morning Call, May 11, 1961, p. 10- ALT1: ... that during World War II, Horton Davies (pictured) was minister to a church in "Flying Bomb Alley", a part of London nicknamed for the many bombs dropped on it? Source:
During the war Professor Davies underwent what he calls his "baptism of fire" while a minister in the section of London called "Flying Bomb Alley" because it received a record number of bombs per square mile
, in "The Clergy in Fiction", Oklahoma City Star, October 30, 1959, p. 6. - ALT2: ... that Horton Davies (pictured) earned a bachelor's degree after earning a master's degree? Source:
Education: University of Edinburgh, M.A., 1937, B.D., 1940
, in "Horton (Marlais) Davies", in Gale Literature: Contemporary Authors (September 28, 2005) - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Adnan_al-Bursh
- Comment: For clarity on ALT2, Davies probably also earned a different Bachelor's degree (a BA in English, as he's described in a source written by his wife, which I did not cite in the article as being too close to the subject, as having been an English major) before his MA; his BD, or Bachelor in Divinity, though, was earned after his MA, according to Gale Literature.
- ALT1: ... that during World War II, Horton Davies (pictured) was minister to a church in "Flying Bomb Alley", a part of London nicknamed for the many bombs dropped on it? Source:
Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 03:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
BB's Tex-Orleans
- ... that Cajun-Texan restaurant chain BB's Tex-Orleans recycled over 14 tons of shucked oyster shells to help restore oyster habitats in Galveston Bay?
- Reviewed:
Kimikel (talk) 01:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 29[edit]
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